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re: The biggest difference in Alabama 2011-2020 and Alabama 2021-2022 is not being able to

Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:42 pm to
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61734 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:42 pm to
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Thank you for your continued, and diligent, interest in Alabama athletics.


Is that it? Not a thoughtful, reasoned rebuttal of what he said?
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
13142 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:58 pm to
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Thank you for your continued, and diligent, interest in Alabama athletics.


You're welcome. I actually post about a lot of teams on here, mostly the front runners, but sometimes the middle dwellers and bottom feeders as well.

This is a fairly big story nationally in college football and is seen as a pivotal year for the Alabama program in terms of maintaining dominance over college football or just being one of the handful of teams that could win a title, but not the dominant one.

As a UGA fan, I'd say it's too early to anoint Georgia the title of current kings of college football. Alabama has taken a two year hiatus before in this historic run and responded by flexing their muscle once again and taking the throne.

The difference this time is that one team won both titles while you stepped down from the throne, but you still have the shot to do exactly what you've done many times before and get back there.

The post was more to talk about where you are at right now and why. What do we see different in how this team played football over the two years in title absentia?

I assumed you would be a top three team in preseason polls this year in January and February. But it appears that the media has more doubts about your team than I previously thought they would. Maybe due to the QB situation this spring, but the media members who vote and have spoken about Alabama or given their post spring rankings have you in that 5 or 6 spot. That's different than the norm, even in your previous two year hiatus years.

Again, I've been adamant that people have written you off too quick. But I've also been adamant that you are in a little different spot than normal in this situation. Both can be true.
This post was edited on 6/3/23 at 9:01 pm
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20630 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:04 pm to
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So, are you saying that Georgia is better than the title winning teams Alabama had in the past?

No but they are right there with those teams and ultra elite.

What people fail to realize is there have been other ultra elite teams that have come and gone during every phase of the Bama dynasty, the difference between Bama and those other teams has been their consistency.

Clemson was just as talented as Bama during the Watson/Lawrence run, they just haven’t sustained it.

UF, UGA, LSU (2 different times) have had runs where they’ve been able to go toe to toe with Bama.

UGA is doing it right now and Bama has to get back to elite level assistant coaches and OL/DL development because there isn’t a Tua/Mac/Bryce running out the tunnel in September.

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I mean, people (I don't think) are completely reading and understanding what the OP is saying. If I am understanding correctly, he is saying that it is unusual for Alabama to have struggled as much as they did this past year.

Yes and I addressed that. Bama has won by kicking the **** out of people at the LOS for ten years then by assembling an insane collection of offensive skill players for another 5.

Now they have to address the misses at OL/DL they had because it’s not clear they can just outscore people with the current group of skill players, particularly at QB.

The recruiting hasn’t fallen off, they are consistently 1-2 every year. They just had missed evals and poor development at a couple of key positions from coaches who were either over their head or didn’t want to be in CFB to begin with.

We will see whether this is a NC level squad or not this year, but the issues seem to be getting addressed longer term IMO.
This post was edited on 6/3/23 at 9:06 pm
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
13142 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:28 pm to
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Clemson was just as talented as Bama during the Watson/Lawrence run, they just haven’t sustained it.


I think this is a misnomer. Clemson never recruited year over year at the same level as Alabama, nor as well as Georgia is now.

They recruited extremely well in two important areas, QB and DL. Their RBs were good/great and their WRs were great. But if you look at what their fans are saying, they never really killed it recruiting Olinemen and many believe this is what has them taking a step back. They don't have QBs now that can offset their lack of talent there. They also have not been nearly as good as UGA or Bama at LBer or DB.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20630 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 7:27 pm to
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Clemson never recruited year over year at the same level as Alabama, nor as well as Georgia is now. They recruited extremely well in two important areas, QB and DL. Their RBs were good/great and their WRs were great.

Ok, but that’s ultra elite at 3 out of 4 different position groups on offense with two different #1 draft picks at QB and massive numbers of NFL draft picks spread across the defense. Seems like the NFL thought they were pretty close from a talent standpoint at least for a time.

And while Bama has had more NFL draft picks than anyone under Saban, teams like Ohio State, UGA and LSU have been right behind them and certainly had years where it was neck and neck.

Point being there have been some really good teams during this run, there have been more competitive championship games than blowouts even when they’ve gone Bama’s way.
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