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re: Thankfully, Stetson Bennett IV got a degree in the seven years he spent at Georgia
Posted on 8/17/24 at 5:13 pm to djsdawg
Posted on 8/17/24 at 5:13 pm to djsdawg
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Did you use the long one or short one?
I started with the long one and it unfairly hurt the UGA case so I went back and applied your short version.
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You still can’t explain what garbage time is, so What exactly are you basing this off of?
I literally used your standard.
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How so?
A good defense causes more garbage time and better field position. Vols put up 600 yards in a shootout vs UGA winning by 20 in the 3rd on a bunch of short or unproductive drives only gets 175 yards and 2 TDs with and INT to that point.
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They change depending on the score of the game and time left.
Kirby’s system is exactly the same as it was when he set foot in Athens. Jake Fromm was effective when he was a game manager but when the D depth wasn’t there and he had to actually play QB he couldn’t do it. Same with Bennett and Beck. Don’t ask them to do anything and the excel, ask them to actually play QB (put the team on their shoulders and go out win something) and they can’t do it.
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stat pro did that for everyone:
No, you show your work with standard you insisted on. You do the math. I did.
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1. Depth just isnt something that is going to wear a team down early in game
That’s incorrect. This isn’t a video game.
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guess it could explain explosion in the 4th q, but that’s when uga kills clock
Actually go game by game and do the math.
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Posted on 8/17/24 at 5:21 pm to Smokeyone
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started with the long one and it unfairly hurt the UGA case so I went back and applied your short version.
Safe to assume it should be a long and laborious process to properly apply the standard for a whole season, so it’s highly doubtful you pulled that off so quickly.
Maybe you should start with a single game to prove you understand what garbage time is.
Try any of the recent uga vol games.
Posted on 8/17/24 at 6:14 pm to Smokeyone
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No, you show your work with standard you insisted on. You do the math. I did.
Nah. The work has already been done by a pro for every single team. Click the link.
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That’s incorrect. This isn’t a video game.
It’s real life. These players are very well conditioned with plenty of tv timeouts. They don’t get overwhelmed by depth early in a game. They do get overwhelmed by explosion.
Posted on 8/17/24 at 6:26 pm to Smokeyone
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Kirby’s system is exactly the same as it was when he set foot in Athens.
Monken had a very different offense from Jim Chaney. He didn’t have a nick chubb / Sony michel duo that is required to run the run first UGA chaney O that was so successful in 2017.
It’s hilarious you still don’t understand the concept of garbage time and killing clock.
You always run away when we get to this exact point.
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Actually go game by game and do the math.
This is pure deflection. The onus has been on you to do it for a single game. Try uga vols 2023 or 2021.
Posted on 8/17/24 at 7:09 pm to djsdawg
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Nah. The work has already been done by a pro for every single team. Click the link.
But did they use the metric you insisted on? Or is this part of the you don’t actually want to go on record with anything original? It’s poor form to demand a standard then run away from it.
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It’s real life. These players are very well conditioned with plenty of tv timeouts. They don’t get overwhelmed by depth early in a game
Depth is an issue from game 1…. Have not read all the injuries just preseason practice. Guys are rarely 100% on day 1 much less a couple of games into a season. Being able to rotate a DLine early and often is a huge benefit. The UGA front 7 was able to out depth teams. They could keep pressure on the other team all game long because of the front 7 depth.
Again it’s not a video game where you line up stats and push a couple buttons.
Posted on 8/17/24 at 7:12 pm to Smokeyone
This thread has a Chex feel.
Posted on 8/17/24 at 7:16 pm to borotiger
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This thread has a Chex feel.
I stopped caring about this topic a couple of years ago. It’s really pointless.
Posted on 8/17/24 at 7:37 pm to Smokeyone
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But did they use the metric you insisted on?
They their own metric, which I insisted on. They removed all garbage time for us. How nice of them.
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Depth is an issue from game 1…
Within a game, depth is an issue towards the end of a game. Starters don’t get winded early in a game as you insist. These tv timeouts are crazy long.
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Being able to rotate a DLine early and often is a huge benefit.
Agree, but the benefit isn’t realized until towards the end of a game.
By that time, uga is killing clock in garbage time, and those garbage time stats aren’t included in proper statistical analysis.
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stopped caring about this topic a couple of years ago. It’s really pointless.
It really is pointless if you don’t possess the intellectual ability to understand the changes to offensive strategy in garbage time to kill clock. You ran from this discussion in this exact spot last year.
Posted on 8/17/24 at 8:09 pm to djsdawg
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They their own metric, which I insisted on
So you dislike your own metric so much you insisted a group that you are not affiliated with use it?
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Within a game, depth is an issue towards the end of a game.
Demonstrably incorrect.
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Agree, but the benefit isn’t realized until towards the end of a game.
Again demonstrably false
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It really is pointless if you don’t possess the intellectual ability to understand the changes to offensive strategy in garbage time to kill clock. You ran from this discussion in this exact spot last year.
I I granted you the right to define garbage time and strictly adhered to your standard and all you are doing now is arguing against that standard.
Sigh.
The last word is yours make it entertaining…
Posted on 8/17/24 at 8:27 pm to Smokeyone
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So you dislike your own metric so much you insisted a group that you are not affiliated with use it?
When do YOU consider a game to be a blowout? Up by how many? Do you think 31-3 in the 4th q a blowout?
Thats the unofficial metric. You know it when you see it, kind of like woke, but it up for debate.
The official one uses strict measures. There is no debate about that. The point remains the same using either metric. These stat prove you wrong.
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Demonstrably incorrect.
SEC FB players are well conditioned. You are wrong to insist otherwise. They don’t get tired as quickly as you think, which proves you never played the game.
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granted you the right to define garbage time and strictly adhered to your standard and all you are doing now is arguing against that standard.
That was deflection from the point, which is about play calling strategy in blowouts. 3 years in a row you couldn’t explain what happens.
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The last word is yours make it entertaining…
So unoriginal. 3 years in a row you ran away like this.
This post was edited on 8/17/24 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 8/17/24 at 9:29 pm to djsdawg
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Posted on 8/17/24 at 9:32 pm to Blackadder
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There is nothing special about watching smokeyone run from a football talk. It happens every year. Heck, one of your previous alters probably started a thread years ago that accomplished the same thing
Posted on 8/17/24 at 9:35 pm to djsdawg
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djsdawg
"Alter...alter...alter...Serraneaux...Tennessee...alter "
idiotPosted on 8/17/24 at 9:40 pm to Blackadder
Ok under the gun
Posted on 8/17/24 at 9:41 pm to djsdawg
Ok, under 70 IQ points.
Posted on 8/17/24 at 9:45 pm to Blackadder
Stetson threw another game winner today. 2 in a row. Almost as many as his wins over your team
Posted on 8/17/24 at 9:49 pm to djsdawg
How about Hooker? You catch anything about him?
Posted on 8/17/24 at 9:55 pm to Blackadder
You started this thread about Bennett. Try to stick to your topic.
Posted on 8/17/24 at 10:03 pm to djsdawg
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You started this thread about Bennett. Try to stick to your topic.
Bennett. He's a druggie and a drunk. Hooker and his brother write Christian children's books. Huge difference in their character.
Posted on 8/17/24 at 10:22 pm to Blackadder
quote:seems like a pedo priest wannabe
Hooker and his brother write Christian children's books.
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