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Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:28 pm to Farmer1906
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When is the last time State beat both Bama schools?
2007
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:18 pm to lsufball19
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2007
People really thought Croom turned a corner that year.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 12:46 am to Blackgloves
Losing to both Mississippi schools is VERY VERY hard to do. Leave it to step brother to get that job done
This post was edited on 11/16/21 at 3:29 am
Posted on 11/16/21 at 3:08 am to anc
Print the cups, we’re the kings of Alabama
Posted on 11/16/21 at 3:30 am to Mars United
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Print the cups, we’re the kings of Alabama
I really hope you’re laughing at that and your school and everyone that even thought for a second printing cups in a game you actually lost would go over well! WOW
Posted on 11/16/21 at 4:22 am to sewaneerebel
quote:Probably a bigger mistake was Ga Tech. Tulane is smaller private school but who knows had they stuck around, they could have at least stayed in the Vanderbilt tier.
Tulane should never have left the SEC.
Sewanee though - small Presbyterian school in the hills of Tennessee. I don't think they could have managed to stay in until the big money started getting doled out ever how many years ago.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 8:39 am to Diamondawg
Sewanee (an Episcopal school) is an interesting case. They were smaller, really competitive in the early 20th century and then just de-emphasized athletics. They offered their presidency to a Harvard administrator who accepted only if they left the SEC and the push toward big time college athletics.
Their current endowment is nearly $500 million. State's is only $650 million.
Tulane and Georgia Tech just made bad decisions.
Tulane wanted to be the Southern Yale, and thought football independence and the ability to schedule nationwide would help them grow out of the Southern footprint.
LINK
"Tulane is a national university. We should play a national schedule." was the money quote from the decision to quit the SEC.
According to the article above, Tulane tried to crawl back in the 80s.
Georgia Tech is even more baffling, because they were somewhat competitive. They left in 1964.
From 1951 (through 1963), Tech football was 6-3-1 versus Tennessee, 7-2-2 against Florida, 6-6-1 against Auburn, 7-6 against Alabama and 9-4 against state-rival Georgia. Tech football had been ranked in the top 20 each of these years and had won the national championship in 1952.
It was somewhat admirable, but Bobby Dodd didn't like the SEC rules and thought Tech could excel as an independent like Notre Dame. He thought other teams in the SEC were skirting the rules by running kids off if they didn't cut it. Dodd believed in getting kids a degree.
Bobby Dodd had the votes to fix the controversial rule but Bear Bryant convinced others to change at the last minute. Dodd got mad and took Tech independent.
It didnt help that Tech was seen as the elitist school in the SEC. National writers didnt mind flying into Atlanta, but going to rural areas of Alabama and Mississippi were beneath them, so Tech got favorable treatment in the media. Dodd wouldn't schedule the Mississippi schools so they were against Tech.
Tech was somewhat competitive as an independent, but their facilities went to crap without conference welfare checks, so they joined the ACC in the 80s.
Their current endowment is nearly $500 million. State's is only $650 million.
Tulane and Georgia Tech just made bad decisions.
Tulane wanted to be the Southern Yale, and thought football independence and the ability to schedule nationwide would help them grow out of the Southern footprint.
LINK
"Tulane is a national university. We should play a national schedule." was the money quote from the decision to quit the SEC.
According to the article above, Tulane tried to crawl back in the 80s.
Georgia Tech is even more baffling, because they were somewhat competitive. They left in 1964.
From 1951 (through 1963), Tech football was 6-3-1 versus Tennessee, 7-2-2 against Florida, 6-6-1 against Auburn, 7-6 against Alabama and 9-4 against state-rival Georgia. Tech football had been ranked in the top 20 each of these years and had won the national championship in 1952.
It was somewhat admirable, but Bobby Dodd didn't like the SEC rules and thought Tech could excel as an independent like Notre Dame. He thought other teams in the SEC were skirting the rules by running kids off if they didn't cut it. Dodd believed in getting kids a degree.
Bobby Dodd had the votes to fix the controversial rule but Bear Bryant convinced others to change at the last minute. Dodd got mad and took Tech independent.
It didnt help that Tech was seen as the elitist school in the SEC. National writers didnt mind flying into Atlanta, but going to rural areas of Alabama and Mississippi were beneath them, so Tech got favorable treatment in the media. Dodd wouldn't schedule the Mississippi schools so they were against Tech.
Tech was somewhat competitive as an independent, but their facilities went to crap without conference welfare checks, so they joined the ACC in the 80s.
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