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Posted on 10/20/24 at 6:06 pm
Posted on 10/20/24 at 6:06 pm
I watched the Georgia/Texas game at the Austin home of die hard Texas fans/alums. My kids went to A&M so I had no dog in the hunt. Targeting calls are getting ridiculous. So a defensive player lowers his upper body and head to the side (slightly) to make a tackle and all the offensive player has to do is lower his helmet turn to the side slightly and he gets 15 extra yards and a player ejected. At the time I had the discussion with the UT fan and while he and his wife were happy with the calls, we didn't think they were straight forward calls. I suspect this reaction to the defense can even be coached up now. So while Texas fans may think they had two properly called and one missed target, it was not apparent the defensive player was trying take the (defenseless) player out. No bueno.
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 6:10 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
if the defensive player lowers his head and uses the crown of his helmet to make a tackle, it doesn’t matter where the defensive player hits him.. legs, chest, helmet.. it’s all targeting by definition because he used his crown ..
the helmet to helmet thing is different.. this was all about the crown being used imo..
the helmet to helmet thing is different.. this was all about the crown being used imo..
This post was edited on 10/20/24 at 6:12 pm
Posted on 10/20/24 at 6:10 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
Targeting is a rule with good intentions but applied moronically. Not every hard hit needs to be flagged/reviewed. Football is still a very rough contact sport. If you can see a player straight up head hunts a dude, by all means (Vontaze Burfict style).
But we’ve gotten to the point where guys are getting flagged for just the mere fact helmets collide (and strangely never for an offensive player who seemingly can use their head as a weapon at anytime)
But we’ve gotten to the point where guys are getting flagged for just the mere fact helmets collide (and strangely never for an offensive player who seemingly can use their head as a weapon at anytime)
Posted on 10/20/24 at 6:14 pm to BigBro
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if the defensive player lowers his head and uses the crown of his helmet to make a tackle, it doesn’t matter where the defensive player hits him.. legs, chest, helmet.. it’s all targeting by definition because he used his crown ..
The offensive players lowered their heads and moved toward the helmet. Sorry.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 6:19 pm to TFS4E
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But we’ve gotten to the point where guys are getting flagged for just the mere fact helmets collide (and strangely never for an offensive player who seemingly can use their head as a weapon at anytime)
This is correct. As surely as a defensive backs coach can coach up his players to grab on to a player who's about to beat them on a long ball the offensive coaches can teach them to bend and move to the player. In the two penalties the offense players bent down to contact the helmet.
I agree it is a good intentioned rule. Before the rule it seems defensive players wanted to put the receiver in the hospital.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 6:20 pm to TFS4E
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and strangely never for an offensive player who seemingly can use their head as a weapon at anytime
This is what pisses me off. The Georgia defensive player and the Texas offensive player both made the exact same moves, and both players were impacted in the exact same manner in the exact same place. Only one gets penalized and ejected.
This post was edited on 10/20/24 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 10/20/24 at 6:21 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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The offensive players lowered their heads and moved toward the helmet. Sorry.
I can’t remember it ever being called on an offensive guy.. but it is possible, and i’ve seen examples of it.. it’s just extremely rare
Posted on 10/20/24 at 6:22 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
I recall one of those targeting calls looked like the carrier lowering and leading with the crown and the defender getting low in response at the last moment so as not to get killed. It goes completely unacknowledged by the announcers though and all they talk about it is how it doesn’t need to be helmet to helmet, or anything really, just blame the defender.
This post was edited on 10/20/24 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 10/20/24 at 6:23 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
This is only the second thread. Here's the first one posted a couple hours ago, still on page 1 barely hanging on....
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 6:24 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
No problem with one of the targeting calls. Just part of the fricked up targeting rules
The targeting call at the sideline was just dumb. Both runner and defender putting heads down and impacting each other at an angle. Typical sideline tackle, nothing vicious. Runner was just as much "at fault" as defender.
bullshite calls are out of hand.
The targeting call at the sideline was just dumb. Both runner and defender putting heads down and impacting each other at an angle. Typical sideline tackle, nothing vicious. Runner was just as much "at fault" as defender.
bullshite calls are out of hand.
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