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re: Sumlin's wife just posted a racist/threatening letter her husband received on Twitter
Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:44 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:44 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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the coach's wife is making the problem WORSE by implying that anyone and everyone who thinks her husband needs to be fired is a racist.
Where in the hell are you getting that?? That is the dumbest quote I've seen on the net today. Nice job.
So, if a woman got raped, she should not come out and say she got raped because it would only make the problem worse? Gotcha
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:46 am to GatorNation4Lyfe
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What school has ever hung onto a black coach?
David Shaw of Stanford has been their head coach ever since Harbaugh left for the 49ers. He's in his 7th season.
Derek Mason has been Vanderbilt's coach since James Franklin left for Penn State and took Vanderbilt's entire recruiting class with him. He's in season 4.
James Franklin is in his 4th season at Penn State.
Everett Withers is in his 2nd season at Texas State.
Dino Babers is in his 2nd season at Syracuse and his daughter just married A&M Offensive Lineman Koda Martin.
Willie Taggart was Western Kentucky's coach for 3 years, then South Florida's coach for 4 years before starting at Oregon.
Sumlin is in his SIXTH season and has gotten worse every season.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 1:47 am
Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:54 am to GatorNation4Lyfe
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Which is my point. Why would his white wife play up the race card?
I'm not saying she did. But I do not think it was an angry white A&M football fan, I think it's someone trying to start shite. Likely someone not even affiliated with the A&M fanbase or Kevin Sumlin
In regards to people accusing her: I have no idea what kind of people the Sumlins are so i won't speculate on them, but there are people out there that resort to race baiting to shift a narrative. It does work
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 3:26 am
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:00 am to CGSC Lobotomy
What the hell are you trying to say? Everyone of those black coaches are coaching because they've had success. What is your point? David Shaw has a better record than Harbaugh ever had at Stanford but he gets zero credit. Franklin turned Vandy and PSU around in some of the toughest situations and OSU get's in the playoffs even though PSU beat them straight up.
Sumlin has had the same record the last 3 years. How is that getting worse? He has the same winning percentage at TAM as he had at Houston. Was he successful at Houston? Than why are you calling him a failure at TAM? Same record man. In case you don't realize it, 8-5 in the SEC West, with some of the best recruiting classes TAM has ever had is pretty good for Aggy. You need to step off the ledge if you are a TAM fan. With the exception of RC Slocum, Sumlin has the best winning percentage of any TAM coach in the modern era. You're going to have to go back to 1928 to find a TAM coach with a better record. Get a clue...
Sumlin has had the same record the last 3 years. How is that getting worse? He has the same winning percentage at TAM as he had at Houston. Was he successful at Houston? Than why are you calling him a failure at TAM? Same record man. In case you don't realize it, 8-5 in the SEC West, with some of the best recruiting classes TAM has ever had is pretty good for Aggy. You need to step off the ledge if you are a TAM fan. With the exception of RC Slocum, Sumlin has the best winning percentage of any TAM coach in the modern era. You're going to have to go back to 1928 to find a TAM coach with a better record. Get a clue...
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:01 am to Lsuchs
We know what kind of person Kevin is. He's the type who would leave an injured quarterback in the game to cover up the fact that he suspended a player for mouthing off to the coaching staff and allow him to make the injury worse.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:03 am to GatorNation4Lyfe
Sumlin's record is fat on cupcakes and rent a wins, just like Slocum's was fat on a weak SWC. He has a losing conference record at Kyle Field, a losing record against the state of Mississippi, had both his starting and backup quarterbacks transfer 6 days apart right before the bowl game, and has presided over two of the most embarrassing losses in program history. He is incapable of succeeding without a quarterback that he inherited from someone else.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 2:05 am
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:08 am to Lsuchs
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I have no idea what kind of people the Sumlins are so i won't accuse them, but I think there are people out there that resort race baiting to shift a narrative. It does work
Please give me some examples of shifting a narrative that works??? Then please find me an example with CFB coaches?
What would his wife have to gain by crafting a fake letter? Do you really think she would want to stay in a city if they were not wanted? Sumlin has made enough money to not ever have to coach again. His net worth is like $20 million. They are not hurting for money. The minute he is let go, he will immediately get offers for Offensive coordinator and HC jobs. NFL and college will come calling. Coaches wives know the deal. They know that anything can happen and they are moving their entire family at the drop of a hat. She also knows that he can get another job immediately, so she ain't worried. To blame her for some idiot is just wrong.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:10 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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We know what kind of person Kevin is. He's the type who would leave an injured quarterback in the game to cover up the fact that he suspended a player for mouthing off to the coaching staff and allow him to make the injury worse.
Then please fire him since "we" as you say think he sucks and you obviously have the power to fire.
UF will gladly take him as OC. Make it happen.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:13 am to GatorNation4Lyfe
Sumlin is owed the remainder of his salary in 60 days if fired. That is how shitty that contract is. He would have been fired after the 2015 season if not for that.
Also, Sumlin hasn't called plays as a coordinator since 2002. You will find that he would not be the Improvement you think he would be.
Also, Sumlin hasn't called plays as a coordinator since 2002. You will find that he would not be the Improvement you think he would be.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 2:15 am
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:14 am to lsupride87
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Even if it's real it isn't racist in my opinion
The person is mad that sumlin fricked up as a football coach. They don't think he sucks because he is black
They simply were mad and used a word to piss him off
He term racist and racism has lost all true meaning
Wow
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:26 am to GatorNation4Lyfe
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Please give me some examples of shifting a narrative that works??? Then please find me an example with CFB coaches?
I'll give you an example of a shifted narrative. I'm not scouring college football history to find other examples though. Also realize I am not blaming Sumlin for this. The narrative shift occurs whether it was actually a racist, a professional race agitator, or the Sumlins. The narrative did shift though
TexAg - Editorial: Forget football
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We don't know who wrote it and we probably never will, but without hesitation we say this person does not represent Aggies or Aggie fans. Coach Sumlin and his family are part of the Aggie family. An attack of this nature on them is an attack on all Aggies. We stand shoulder to shoulder with them, football games be damned.
Up until today he's getting slammed on local radio, in articles, on TV. Slammed for football. Because of race, one word by one person, it's forget football. The tune will now completely change nationally. Check ESPN, check the articles. See if people are still attacking him. Any move the school makes that adversely effect sumlin are in bad optics now.
Now once again, I don't think he's involved. And i do think the school should come out and support him. But here is your example of a shifted narrative. And all I said before is there are people out there that will use race to shift a narrative. There are people in every facet of society that will shift a narrative to their benefit by any tools at their disposal. Whether white, black, or brown.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 2:29 am
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:32 am to AHM21
Or else...lol.
They're giving him an offer he can't refuse.
They're giving him an offer he can't refuse.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 2:33 am
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:33 am to GatorNation4Lyfe
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What the hell are you trying to say? Everyone of those black coaches are coaching because they've had success. What is your point?
He's answering your question about no one hanging onto a black coach. Those schools have black coaches, and yes it's because they are successful. That's why they hold onto white ones too
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OSU get's in the playoffs even though PSU beat them straight up.
Just like we knew Bama was going to get in over OK State and play us again even though we beat them straight up. Gundy is white..
That's just Ohio State > Penn State as national influence and TV draw. $$ not race
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You need to step off the ledge if you are a TAM fan. With the exception of RC Slocum, Sumlin has the best winning percentage of any TAM coach in the modern era.
Sumlin is right where les miles (white) was when he lost to Wisconsin. Les won us an NC and had our best career win %. We weren't in the limelight any more just like y'all aren't now. It was les miles hate 24/7 and people were calling for his head. It's big business and how it goes, nothing to do with race.
I'm starting to realize you are just going to see race in every situation if that's all you want to see.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 2:50 am
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:35 am to AHM21
Well hell yeah it's racist. Wtf did they think? All of those howdy dudy frickers just loved them some kevin sumlin? Lol, you're in fricking texas, you coach at a&m, they should have been awaiting a letter like that.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:40 am to Lsuchs
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Now once again, I don't think he's involved. And i do think the school should come out and support him. But here is your example of a shifted narrative. And all I said was there are people in every facet of society that will shift a narrative to their benefit by any tools at their disposal. Whether white, black, or brown.
bullshite... The moment TAM loses the next game, people will be all over his arse to fire him. His color will not save him any more than his wife. He wins games, he stays. He loses games, he is out. That is how it goes. You are mixing up narrative with news of the day. This story neither helps him or hurts him in saving his job. Try again.
Charlie Strong had all kinds of racists throwing shite at him and it did not save his job. Why should it? If Sumlin fails miserably this year, he's gone. He probably deserves another year but he won't get it. If he runs the table, there is no way he can be fired. If he has another 8-5 year, all bets are off. The fanbase will want him gone most likely but I'm not quite sure they can do better. Their history says that they can't. Race has nothing to do with it. TAM has been one of the most progressive universities in the nation, definitely in the SEC. They are one of the last universities that would have to apologize for letting go a black coach.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:44 am to Lsuchs
Idk about all of that shite. Now, if kevin sumlin was white and Charlie strong was also white, they would have been canned in the same fashion. You have to produce in the end. That's all that matters. They just didn't get the job done, period. It's nothing about race, they just werent successful. That letter is dumb, but his wife posting that on social media to try and make it a race issue is ridiculous. Newsflash, not everyone is going to like you. Hell, some people may just not like you bc you're a different color. That's life. No, it's not right, but who gives a shite what someone thinks about your race unless you're insecure about your own race in the first place? If someone calls me a cracker or a honky, I just laugh and move on with life bc who gives a shite what some dumbass thinks? At the end of the day, you're a bigtime college football coach, and shite like that comes with the territory.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:45 am to GatorNation4Lyfe
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Which is my point. Why would his white wife play up the race card? That is ludicrous. She posted a letter by some stupid person (could be anyone) and people are trying to blame the victim. Stupid.
Jeremy Lin said he got way more racist attack him in college than in the NBA. Do you really think Lin mentioned it because he wanted to protect his job? What school has ever hung onto a black coach? They usually fire them a whole lot quicker than white coaches. Texas ex coach Strong had all kind of racial shite thrown his way. McComb hung him out to dry before he even got there. It didn't stop them from canning him. Ya'll are barking up the wrong tree with your conspiracy theories.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:47 am to GuiceTheGreat
You are right. Everything he just said about why sumlin shouldn't be fired is child's play compared to les miles at LSU. Imagine if miles was black, apparently people like him around the country would be losing their shite blaming it on race.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 3:38 am
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:47 am to Lsuchs
Yep, no doubt.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:50 am to Lsuchs
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He's answering your question about no one hanging onto a black coach. Those schools have black coaches, and yes it's because they are successful. That's why they hold onto white ones too
So he list coaches with 7, 4, 2, 2, 1 and 6 years with their school??? Is that suppose to prove that schools are hanging onto black coaches???
There's 13 black Div 1A coaches. The majority of them have white wives which I find rather strange. Not one of them would ever be retained if they don't win. Believe that. Most likely they will never, ever get another HC gig if they frick up with the exception of Sumlin, Strong, Franklin and Shaw.
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