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Stoops' arrogance cost OU big time

Posted on 1/8/09 at 11:22 pm
Posted by givemeabeer
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 1/8/09 at 11:22 pm
Stoops has a tied game and a fourth and a long one. Kick the FG, go up 10-7.

Later, late in the second quarter, 10 seconds left, instead of the FG they thrown an INT going for the TD. If they kick it, OU up 13-7 at half.

That could have put a lot of pressure on Florida's offense. Stoops' arrogance to go for the big hits when the FGs would have given them the lead and extended it, really cost them big-time.

Just my two cents.
Posted by rollthatback
Member since Jun 2008
3042 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 11:22 pm to
Les would have gone for it.
Posted by uscpuke
Member since Jan 2004
5772 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 11:24 pm to
quote:

Les would have gone for it.


Big difference, we would have made it.
Posted by rollthatback
Member since Jun 2008
3042 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 11:24 pm to
Not based on what happened this year.
Posted by Bread Orgeron
Baw Bakery
Member since Aug 2006
11855 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 11:25 pm to
quote:

Les would have made it.


Fixed
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
Your Mom's House, AL
Member since Jul 2007
24491 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 11:25 pm to
Thats crazy talk. Going for it from the one was sound football. Go for the TD, and if you don't get it they are backed up. Get a stop and you are winning the field position battle, even without the points.

Before the half, they still had a timeout so why would you not try to score, and keep the option of the field goal with your timeout? The interception was a freaking fluke of a play. The entire defense seemed to have tipped that ball at least once.

Even if they went for FGs both times, do you really think Florida would have been under some major pressure by being down by six? Seriously?
This post was edited on 1/8/09 at 11:27 pm
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
15949 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 11:26 pm to
Stoops just got out coached again. He and Saban sure know how to roll over in big games.
Posted by Rockerbraves
Greatest Nation on Earth
Member since Feb 2007
8015 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 11:26 pm to
Didn't think it was a bad decision just didn't think he needed to quick snap the ball. He needed a little bit more confidence in his offensive line. Down, set, hut...
Posted by itawambadog
America, F Yeah!
Member since Nov 2007
21266 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 11:26 pm to
did oklahoma have any time outs when they tried to go for it on that last 4th down? i know if i had them i would take one.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
69739 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 11:27 pm to
they tried to be big bullies going for it on 4th.. great teams get away with it.. they didn't..
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59563 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 11:30 pm to
quote:

Thats crazy talk. Going for it from the one was sound football. Go for the TD, and if you don't get it they are backed up.


It's not a black and white issue. There is something to be said for getting the lead in the NC game. On the other hand, being agressive and failing isn't the end of the world due to field position.

The only way you can be wrong about this is to take a definitive stance on which was correct.
Posted by Rivers
Florida
Member since Nov 2008
3256 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 11:33 pm to
Stoops and Saban = Boston Red Sox
Posted by Geauxst
Gonzales, LA
Member since Nov 2003
485 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 11:33 pm to
nm

This post was edited on 1/8/09 at 11:35 pm
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
Your Mom's House, AL
Member since Jul 2007
24491 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 11:33 pm to
I was watching with a buddy, who is a GREAT high school coach, and we both said "if you can't get a yard for a TD in the national championship game, then you don't deserve to win it"...

Posted by arwicklu
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2008
7627 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 11:40 pm to
quote:

Stoops has a tied game and a fourth and a long one. Kick the FG, go up 10-7.


I think you can debate whether that was a good call or not.

quote:

Later, late in the second quarter, 10 seconds left, instead of the FG they thrown an INT going for the TD. If they kick it, OU up 13-7 at half.


They should have gone for the TD at that point. They could have called something like a fade instead but regardless if he doesnt throw a pick, then the ball hits the ground and they kick a FG. 10 seconds left you have to take a shot at a TD if it's not 4th down.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59563 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 11:46 pm to
quote:

I was watching with a buddy, who is a GREAT high school coach, and we both said "if you can't get a yard for a TD in the national championship game, then you don't deserve to win it"...


Oversimplification.

Like I said, the only way you can be wrong is to take a definitive stance...which you've done twice.

Runner up for coach of the year in the NFL kicked the field goal in the playoff game last weekend.

LIke I said, it's not black and white.
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
Your Mom's House, AL
Member since Jul 2007
24491 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 11:50 pm to
Well, when you send in a play, you've "taken a stance" correct? I would have went for it both times. They don't let you sit on the sideline and philosophize the potential ramifications of your choice, and whether or not a tree falling in the woods makes a sound. I'd have made the same choices Stoops made.

Now I've taken a stance three times.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59563 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 11:52 pm to
quote:

Well, when you send in a play, you've "taken a stance" correct? I would have went for it both times. They don't let you sit on the sideline and philosophize the potential ramifications of your choice, and whether or not a tree falling in the woods makes a sound. I'd have made the same choices Stoops made.

Now I've taken a stance three times.


Not black and white. Neither decision was wrong.
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
Your Mom's House, AL
Member since Jul 2007
24491 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 11:55 pm to
I never said it would have been WRONG to kick a field goal. I've only said that it was sound playcalling by Stoops to be aggressive and try for the TD's in both of those situations.
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10536 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 11:57 pm to
Stoops should have taken the points IMO.
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