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re: Stetson Bennett will pass for 4000 yards this year

Posted on 7/10/22 at 4:00 am to
Posted by mbogo
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Posted on 7/10/22 at 4:00 am to
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All you are doing is agreeing with me that there are reasons why a more talented player doesn’t start.



I never said a more talented player doesn't start as a freshman. I said when Tua started he started from then on when healthy. JTD was healthy but didn't start which means Bennett was the starter.

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It means the guy got hurt, which cost him his job. Durability is very important for a qb, and he proved he didn’t have that.



That makes no sense. You don't play a guy because he's gotten hurt in the past?
Posted by mbogo
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Posted on 7/10/22 at 4:06 am to
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Do you remember that td? Same type pass play that bowers dropped vs clemson.

So injuries cost us 2 obvious tds vs Clemson, and maybe more.


You're arguing a guy who had 10 catches and 1 TD all year against a guy that had 56 catches and 13 TDs. Seems like every injury you guys had made your team better, not worse.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 9:49 pm to
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Certainly wasn't someone they played as much as they could.


We played him far less than we wanted to, but that was certainly better than not at all.

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You keep claiming it but the Georgia sites said JTD was healthy.


Both were hurt for extended periods of time. Once a QB is hurt for an extended period of time, the damage is done to the their PT.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 9:53 pm to
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Ease back by playing 7 and then 20.


Yep. Both are far less than 60.

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You mean play less than he could? So much for his competitiveness you were touting.



Of course you dont understand the concept of "compromise".

No need to be reckless and risk a high draft pick by playing all the snaps, but if you are super competitive, there is also no need to sit out completely as you work towards being full strength for the combine.

Its possible to do both, which is exactly what Pickens did. A less competitive kid sits out completely.

This post was edited on 7/12/22 at 1:54 am
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 9:55 pm to
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I never said a more talented player doesn't start as a freshman. I


We agree that Tua didnt start because he was a freshman and Hurts had a lot of experience.

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That makes no sense. You don't play a guy because he's gotten hurt in the past?


What part of "durability is important" do you not understand? Once again, the QB position is different than the others. Coaches only bench a Qb for simple reasons well beyond your understanding.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 9:57 pm to
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You're arguing a guy who had 10 catches and 1 TD all year against a guy that had 56 catches and 13 TDs. Seems like every injury you guys had made your team better, not worse.



We are talking about the Clemson game. None of these injuries helped in that game. In fact, 2 of them cost us TD's.

Young went to shite without 2 of his WR's. Imagine how shitty he would have been dealing with the situation JTD faced vs Clemson.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
2799 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 3:32 am to
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We played him far less than we wanted to, but that was certainly better than not at all.



I guess they wanted to play him more than 18 plays but didn't even though they could.

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Both were hurt for extended periods of time. Once a QB is hurt for an extended period of time, the damage is done to the their PT.



Nonsense. When your best QB is healthy you play him.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/13/22 at 3:32 am to
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Yep. Both are far less than 60.



He was going to play 60 plays in a 56 play game with, as you argued, Georgia rotating their players a lot.

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Of course you dont understand the concept of "compromise".


He was so competitive he decided to play fewer plays than a month earlier vs helping his team in the biggest game of his career...
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/13/22 at 3:32 am to
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We agree that Tua didnt start because he was a freshman and Hurts had a lot of experience.



Tua didn't start due to limited knowledge and Hurts being a talented player. When he did start he started for the rest of his career unless injured.


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What part of "durability is important" do you not understand? Once again, the QB position is different than the others. Coaches only bench a Qb for simple reasons well beyond your understanding.



Coaches play the best player. If a QB has started and doesn't start when he is ready he isn't the starter. Daniels' injury actually helped Georgia.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/13/22 at 3:32 am to
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We are talking about the Clemson game. None of these injuries helped in that game. In fact, 2 of them cost us TD's.



I guess you're counting Washington and his part of a catch per game as someone who would have had a TD.

If Young had all but one receiver in the NC game, and had an upgrade at another receiving position, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 8:43 pm to
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I guess they wanted to play him more than 18 plays but didn't even though they could.


When you get a pick 6, the opponent gets the ball back. It would be stupid to play a WR on Defense. Even you know that.

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Nonsense. When your best QB is healthy you play him.




Thats not how QB selection works during a season. Continuity matters at QB. Availability is crucial. I told you that weeks ago, and you still dont understand that.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 8:45 pm to
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He was going to play 60 plays in a 56 play game with, as you argued, Georgia rotating their players a lot.


He averaged 55 plays per game in 2020. We obviously didnt rotate the studs all that much.

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He was so competitive he decided to play fewer plays than a month earlier vs helping his team in the biggest game of his career...


No compromise would have been ZERO plays. Thankfully his Dr and Parents allowed him to play some. Ya know, a compromise.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41261 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 8:50 pm to
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Tua didn't start due to limited knowledge and Hurts being a talented player.


So multiple reasons why a more talented player sits on the bench? I knew you had it in you.

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Daniels' injury actually helped Georgia.


Our passing O clearly downgraded with the JTD and Pickens injuries. Bennett and AD Mitchell were good backups though, so we were still able to win the national title with them.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41261 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 8:52 pm to
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I guess you're counting Washington and his part of a catch per game as someone who would have had a TD.


Washington is 6'8 and scored a TD vs Bama on a similar play. due to that height advantage. If he can do that vs Bama, he can do that vs Clemson.

And dont forget that OG injury costing us a 2nd TD.

Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
2799 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 1:26 am to
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When you get a pick 6, the opponent gets the ball back. It would be stupid to play a WR on Defense. Even you know that.



That's just gibberish that has nothing to do with Pickens not playing more.

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Thats not how QB selection works during a season. Continuity matters at QB. Availability is crucial. I told you that weeks ago, and you still dont understand that.


It works that way for every team. If the starting QB gets injured he starts. If the team doesn't start him he isn't the starter.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 1:26 am to
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He averaged 55 plays per game in 2020. We obviously didnt rotate the studs all that much.



Which contradicts your claim Georgia rotates its receivers for health reasons.

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No compromise would have been ZERO plays. Thankfully his Dr and Parents allowed him to play some. Ya know, a compromise.



I guess he figured playing more a month earlier was less risky.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 1:26 am to
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So multiple reasons why a more talented player sits on the bench? I knew you had it in you.



Not a more talented player that has started before. You continue to try to analogize two different things.

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Our passing O clearly downgraded with the JTD and Pickens injuries. Bennett and AD Mitchell were good backups though, so we were still able to win the national title with them.


Your coaching staff doesn't agree with you.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
2799 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 1:27 am to
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Washington is 6'8 and scored a TD vs Bama on a similar play. due to that height advantage. If he can do that vs Bama, he can do that vs Clemson.

And dont forget that OG injury costing us a 2nd TD.



Yea, a guy with a part of a catch per game and 1 TD all year is a good argument as to why Georgia scored 3 points.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41261 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 11:04 pm to
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That's just gibberish that has nothing to do with Pickens not playing more.



The Pick 6 took O snaps away from UGA. There is no denying that reality.

If we got the ball back needing to score, we would have had 4+ more plays. Thats where those 2 extra snaps you are obsessed with would have happened.

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It works that way for every team. If the starting QB gets injured he starts. If the team doesn't start him he isn't the starter.


No team would re insert the starter after a prolonged injury, with a high possibility of a reoccurrence of injury, while the backup QB was doing very well in a lot of wins, as Bennett was doing. Smart didnt. Saban wouldnt. Belichick didnt.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41261 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 11:07 pm to
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Which contradicts your claim Georgia rotates its receivers for health reasons.


Thats not my claim. I literally just said "we obviously didnt rotate the studs all that much".

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I guess he figured playing more a month earlier was less risky.


Looks like the compromise was 20 or below. They deemed that to be low enough risk.
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