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re: Stetson Bennett will pass for 4000 yards this year

Posted on 7/5/22 at 6:50 am to
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 6:50 am to
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A coach who doesn't start a player who has multiple starts and is the better player would be the idiot.


Tua just needed PT. He was always more talented than 2017 Hurts, and it took the most extreme desperation for Saban to play him over Hurts.

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You mean Bennett may have started over this guy but no way he started over him a few months ago?



No coach is going to bench a backup QB, especially one who won the national title with clutch play. You keep on forgetting the only reasons coaches will or will not change QB's. Its not that hard.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 6:58 am to
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Bowers was a better receiver than Washington who only had like 10 catches all year so that was an actual plus. Daniels had Burton, the guy with two last names, the Smith guy, etc.


We had big plans for Washington, but we had to adjust when he got hurt. Him being hurt did not help us one bit vs Clemson.

Bowers (freshman, 0 catches)

Besides Burton, who had 2nd most snaps, this is what he had playing in that game:

Jack-Saint (4 career catches)
Ladd (freshman, 0 catches)
Jaylon Johnson (walk on)
Justin Robinon (freshman, 0 catches)
AD Mitchell (freshman, 0 catches)
Arian Sith (2 career catches)

6 career catches and a walk on @ WR.

Pretty much every QB is going to struggle when you add that into the other circumstances.
Posted by mbogo
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Posted on 7/6/22 at 5:06 am to
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You claiming that Bama did not benefit from Pickens only playing 18snaps is far more laughable.



Not when Pickens could have played significantly more.

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What would you rather have?

A. 1500 yards of Pickens and JTD
B. 500 yards of Pickens and Bennett + 200 yards rushing Bennett

I'd rather have statue JTD and his 155 rating. Unfortunately, the Georgia coaches made the wise decision.
Posted by mbogo
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Posted on 7/6/22 at 5:07 am to
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So it is nothing besides your own unqualified assumptions. Zero quotes to support your claim.



It's simple logic of a less severe injury combined with players who have done it. There would be no logic to not playing significantly more 5 weeks after playing 20.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/6/22 at 5:07 am to
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Tua just needed PT. He was always more talented than 2017 Hurts, and it took the most extreme desperation for Saban to play him over Hurts.


If Tua had started the year before you would have a point.

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No coach is going to bench a backup QB, especially one who won the national title with clutch play. You keep on forgetting the only reasons coaches will or will not change QB's. Its not that hard.


JTD will be the starter no matter how many games Bennett starts. That's funny.

Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/6/22 at 5:07 am to
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Bowers (freshman, 0 catches)


Bowers had 6 catches against Clemson. That's 60 pct of what Washington had all year.

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Jack-Saint (4 career catches)
Ladd (freshman, 0 catches)
Jaylon Johnson (walk on)
Justin Robinon (freshman, 0 catches)
AD Mitchell (freshman, 0 catches)
Arian Sith (2 career catches)


He played a defense ranked similar to Bama's.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/6/22 at 9:19 am to
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Not when Pickens could have played significantly more


This makes no sense.

Any play with Pickens on the bench was a plus for bama.

This means more plays he missed, the more bama benefitted.

According to you, he missed a significant amount of plays.

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rather have statue JTD and his 155 rating.


Only an idiot would rather have 800 less yards. Even saban thinks you are an idiot.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/6/22 at 9:29 am to
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There would be no logic to not playing significantly more 5 weeks after playing 20.


You are still ignoring 2 things:

1. the advice of the surgeon who performed his repair
2. the upcoming nfl combine and draft
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/6/22 at 9:35 am to
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Tua had started the year before you would have a point.


This makes no sense. My point was about talent, so experience is irrelevant.

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JTD will be the starter no matter how many games


Well, When the starter gets hurt, and never again proves to have the durability required……
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41754 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 9:49 am to
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Bowers had 6 catches against Clemson. That's 60 pct of what Washington had all year.


Due to his inexperience, He dropped a td that Washington would have caught.

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played a defense ranked similar to Bama's.


YEP, but This makes the above point about WR inexperience even more important.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
2802 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 2:45 am to
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Any play with Pickens on the bench was a plus for bama.


Not according to Georgia coaches or they would have played him more.

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Only an idiot would rather have 800 less yards. Even saban thinks you are an idiot.



Then the Georgia coaches are idiots.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/8/22 at 2:51 am to
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1. the advice of the surgeon who performed his repair



His advice was to play 20 plays in his 2nd game back. He wouldn't advise him not to play more 5 weeks later in the biggest game he had ever played in and maybe the biggest game he would ever participate.

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2. the upcoming nfl combine and draft


When considering the NFL draft players either sit out or play all out.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/8/22 at 3:15 am to
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This makes no sense. My point was about talent, so experience is irrelevant.



It makes perfect sense. Some of the most talented players in college football history didn't start until a certain point, like Tua.

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Well, When the starter gets hurt, and never again proves to have the durability required……



What does that even mean? You don't start your best player in the biggest game because he might get hurt? No, the one you start is the one you see as your starter.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
2802 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 3:22 am to
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Due to his inexperience, He dropped a td that Washington would have caught.



Washington had one TD catch all year. That's funny stuff.


Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41754 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 2:11 pm to
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Not according to Georgia coaches or they would have played him more.


Pickens was a luxury after having an injury that ends many seasons.

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Then the Georgia coaches are idiots.


How so? The players were hurt. Unless you are dumb enough to think the coaches injured them, which could be the case.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/8/22 at 2:13 pm to
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His advice was to play 20 plays in his 2nd game back. He wouldn't advise him not to play more 5 weeks later in the biggest game he had ever played in and maybe the biggest game he would ever participate.


Yes. His advice was to ease back into it. That’s always been his advice.

That was also the advice of his parents.

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When considering the NFL draft players either sit out or play all out.


Or they do exactly what Pickens did.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/8/22 at 2:16 pm to
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makes perfect sense. Some of the most talented players in college football history didn't start until a certain point, like Tua.


All you are doing is agreeing with me that there are reasons why a more talented player doesn’t start.

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What does that even mean? You don't start your best player in the biggest game because he might get hurt? No, the one you start is the one you see as your starter.


It means the guy got hurt, which cost him his job. Durability is very important for a qb, and he proved he didn’t have that.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41754 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 2:19 pm to
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Washington had one TD catch all year. That's funny stuff.


Do you remember that td? Same type pass play that bowers dropped vs clemson.

So injuries cost us 2 obvious tds vs Clemson, and maybe more.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
2802 posts
Posted on 7/10/22 at 3:52 am to
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Pickens was a luxury after having an injury that ends many seasons.



Certainly wasn't someone they played as much as they could.

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How so? The players were hurt. Unless you are dumb enough to think the coaches injured them, which could be the case.


You keep claiming it but the Georgia sites said JTD was healthy.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
2802 posts
Posted on 7/10/22 at 3:55 am to
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Yes. His advice was to ease back into it. That’s always been his advice.



Ease back by playing 7 and then 20.

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Or they do exactly what Pickens did.



You mean play less than he could? So much for his competitiveness you were touting.
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