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re: Stetson Bennett will pass for 4000 yards this year
Posted on 7/3/22 at 4:42 am to djsdawg
Posted on 7/3/22 at 4:42 am to djsdawg
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Despite the differences, such as this one, similarities do remain. This isn’t all or nothing.
This was a bad attempt at an analogy from the start.
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JTD never proved he was good to go, but Kirby sure fooled you into thinking so. Probably didn’t work on saban so well.
Dec 15th: "Daniels is currently healthy with no issues that would prevent him from playing, but Bennett has held the starting job and continued to get first-team reps in the postseason."
You know the wide disparity in injuries so no matter if your own people say he was healthy you can't accept it.
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 4:42 am to djsdawg
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1. against a badass Clemson D
2. in game 1
3. with a starting OL out on play 2
4. with freshman pass catchers playing key roles
1. The same badass D that allowed 27 a few weeks later.
2. For both teams.
3. How many points is an OG worth?
4. Sounds like you're making my NC game argument for me.
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Add another to the list…….Transitive property doesn’t apply to CFB. Only an idiot would think it did.
You're calling yourself an idiot with the Cincy games. Funny.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 8:51 pm to mbogo
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You mean when the game comes down to the last minute what's the point of playing him?
We might have played him 2 more plays if we needed to pass the ball on that final drive, but we were running it down your throats and had a pick 6, which kept the O off the field.
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Like 2020?
UGA wasnt very good in 2020, and 2020 Bennett couldnt get him the ball like 2020 JTD did. Thats why Bama was lucky to miss the improved 2021 JTD + Pickens DUO.
This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 7/3/22 at 8:57 pm to mbogo
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es, we agree he was fine after the game so unless he was miraculously healed he was fine during the game.
So he didnt receive that kind of news BEFORE the game, which proves he did NOT have the support of his surgeon to play unlimited vs Bama, which destroys your weak arse point even further.
Also, "After the game" could have been a week later, or a month later. They didnt specify.
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Has anyone come out and refuted it?
No reason for anyone to dispute it, and my point stands about the accuracy of 2nd or 3rd hand info.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 9:10 pm to mbogo
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This was a bad attempt at an analogy from the start.
I disagree, but if you think the differences push it to the bad side of analogies, then that still proves my point about there being multiple legit reasons for coaches playing the lesser Qb:
- For 2017, it was experience and winning.
- For 2021, it was durability and winning.
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Dec 15th: "Daniels is currently healthy with no issues that would prevent him from playing, but Bennett has held the starting job and continued to get first-team reps in the postseason."
Coach speak is often used to get the opponent prepping for 2 Qb's.
Also, getting some reps in practice is NOT proof he was durable enough to play a full game without limitations. He had not proven he could do that in months.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 9:19 pm to mbogo
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1. The same badass D that allowed 27 a few weeks later.
2. For both teams.
3. How many points is an OG worth?
4. Sounds like you're making my NC game argument for me.
1. It was not the same badass D, as their best player tore his ACL, and their leader hurt his shoulder, BOTH IN THE GAME.
Also, the game went into double OT, which of course you didnt even know about.
2. D's are usually ahead of O's in game 1, especially an elite D with a ton of experience.
3. At least 7, as Clemson blew up a for sure TD by running into the spot the OG was to be at.
4. It was impossible for UGA to get those freshman PT in the offseason. Bama had 14 games to get their freshman ready, and they failed.
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You're calling yourself an idiot with the Cincy games. Funny.
Unlike your post, My point wasnt applying transitive property. It was a simple comparison as to how the UGA and Bama duos performed vs Cincy. Meanwhile, you cant even admit Miami sucked arse,
This post was edited on 7/4/22 at 12:26 am
Posted on 7/4/22 at 3:25 am to djsdawg
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We might have played him 2 more plays if we needed to pass the ball on that final drive, but we were running it down your throats and had a pick 6, which kept the O off the field.
On the 4th quarter drive that you took the lead every play was a pass play with 3 or 4 wrs, none of which was Pickens. That's how important he was.
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UGA wasnt very good in 2020, and 2020 Bennett couldnt get him the ball like 2020 JTD did. Thats why Bama was lucky to miss the improved 2021 JTD + Pickens DUO.
Yea, Bama wished they had the improved JTD that wasn't mobile and led Georgia to 3 points against Clemson as Bama and Clemson were 7th and 8th in total defense.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 3:25 am to djsdawg
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So he didnt receive that kind of news BEFORE the game, which proves he did NOT have the support of his surgeon to play unlimited vs Bama, which destroys your weak arse point even further.
He had the support to play 7 in the first game and 20 a week later. That isn't a gradual increase. He could have played a lot more.
If I had a patient that was not 100 pct and someone said he was that would be a good reason.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 3:25 am to djsdawg
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For 2017, it was experience and winning.
- For 2021, it was durability and winning.
Except Bennett lost in a blowout so it wasn't winning.
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Coach speak is often used to get the opponent prepping for 2 Qb's.
Bama would have prepped for 2 QBs regardless. Coach speak isn't going to alter that.
Daniels transferring proves he wasn't the starter.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 3:25 am to djsdawg
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1. It was not the same badass D, as their best player tore his ACL, and their leader hurt his shoulder, BOTH IN THE GAME.
Also, the game went into double OT, which of course you didnt even know about.
I know they gave up 20 or more multiple times. And, thanks for arguing about not being the same team due to injuries to your best players.
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3. At least 7, as Clemson blew up a for sure TD by running into the spot the OG was to be at.
So, it would have been a sure fire TD with another OG. Interesting.
What freshmen? The depth chart shows 2 soph and a jr.
It was worse. You were using teams from different years. You say Miami sucks arse because they played Bama. They certainly weren't anything to write home about. They won 7 games including the team with your no 1 receiver. So, if that sucks then they sucked.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 3:57 am to mbogo
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On the 4th quarter drive that you took the lead every play was a pass play with 3 or 4 wrs, none of which was Pickens. That's how important he was.
When a player is on a snap count, it makes sense to save some snaps in case we didnt take the lead on that drive. Turns out we didnt even need him for as many plays as Jameson played.
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Yea, Bama wished they had the improved JTD that wasn't mobile
Bennett's mobility wasnt a positive factor for UGA in the 33-18 win as he ran for NEG yards, but its an irrefutable fact that JTD + Pickens was an elite duo, while Pickens + Bennett werent. 1000 MORE yards is a lot.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 4:03 am to mbogo
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He had the support to play 7 in the first game and 20 a week later.
We already know he had the support to play up to 20 snaps, but not the support to play 60. No point in repeating that fact over and over.
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He could have played a lot more.
Says you? Not even his hype master agent quoted his surgeon as saying that until weeks after the game.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 4:09 am to mbogo
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Except Bennett lost in a blowout so it wasn't winning.
Bama also lost by double digits, so thats another similarity.
Another one is both were also going into the playoffs, which is even another similarity, and you dont go to the playoffs without a lot of winning. Only an idiot thinks a coach should change QB's in that situation.
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Daniels transferring proves he wasn't the starter.
It proves he wasnt going to risk not being the starter in 2022, which we arent discussing.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 5:08 am to mbogo
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know they gave up 20 or more multiple times
They finally gave up 20 on 10/23 against PITT, which is very different from the situation than the one UGA faced.
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So, it would have been a sure fire TD with another OG. Interesting.
All the OG had to do was make the block for a TD.
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What freshmen? The depth chart shows 2 soph and a jr.
TE Brock Bowers was the backup to hurt TE Darnell Washington, while Ladd and AD Mitchell were also freshman that had never played a game before. The WR with the most snaps was an inexperienced sophomore coming off a major injury. We even had to use a walk on WR.
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It was worse. You were using teams from different years.
Cincy had an elite D in both 2020 and 2021, with many of the same players, which makes it a reasonable comparison.
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You say Miami sucks arse because they played Bama.
What? No. I say Miami sucks because they only won 7 games in the ACC. Hell, the barely beat an awful GTU.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 1:59 am to djsdawg
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When a player is on a snap count, it makes sense to save some snaps in case we didnt take the lead on that drive. Turns out we didnt even need him for as many plays as Jameson played.
That is a laughable argument.
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Bennett's mobility wasnt a positive factor for UGA in the 33-18 win as he ran for NEG yards, but its an irrefutable fact that JTD + Pickens was an elite duo, while Pickens + Bennett werent. 1000 MORE yards is a lot.
Bennett had positive running yards in every game except that game. JT Daniels was negative or zero in every game he ever played for Georgia.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 1:59 am to djsdawg
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Says you? Not even his hype master agent quoted his surgeon as saying that until weeks after the game.
Now it is weeks. In your last comment on this you didn't know the time frame.
Obviously a player who played 20 could play more 5 weeks later.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 2:00 am to djsdawg
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Bama also lost by double digits, so thats another similarity.
A coach who doesn't start a player who has multiple starts and is the better player would be the idiot.
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It proves he wasnt going to risk not being the starter in 2022, which we arent discussing.
You mean Bennett may have started over this guy but no way he started over him a few months ago?
Posted on 7/5/22 at 2:15 am to djsdawg
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TE Brock Bowers was the backup to hurt TE Darnell Washington, while Ladd and AD Mitchell were also freshman that had never played a game before. The WR with the most snaps was an inexperienced sophomore coming off a major injury. We even had to use a walk on WR.
Bowers was a better receiver than Washington who only had like 10 catches all year so that was an actual plus. Daniels had Burton, the guy with two last names, the Smith guy, etc.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 6:44 am to mbogo
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That is a laughable argument.
You claiming that Bama did not benefit from Pickens only playing 18snaps is far more laughable.
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Bennett had positive running yards in every game except that game. JT Daniels was negative or zero in every game he ever played for Georgia.
What would you rather have?
A. 1500 yards of Pickens and JTD
B. 500 yards of Pickens and Bennett + 200 yards rushing Bennett
Give me A. Saban would not want A for UGA.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 6:46 am to mbogo
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Now it is weeks. In your last comment on this you didn't know the time frame.
Obviously a player who played 20 could play more 5 weeks later.
So it is nothing besides your own unqualified assumptions. Zero quotes to support your claim.
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