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Posted on 5/14/23 at 2:52 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Certainly not bad enough to kill his Heisman chances.
So soon after he got destroyed by uga, he needed a strong finish, and then he had another unimpressive performance. Certainly not good enough one to suddenly become the heisman favorite. You don’t seem to have a good understanding of heisman voting.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 2:56 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Williams was barely in the conversation until Hooker got hurt.
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According to your link Hooker was a long way off the mark from Stroud. To say he would likely win it is, like I said, a stretch at best. I haven't looked, but I would bet I could fins more that had Hooker lower than a distant second.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 2:57 pm to djsdawg
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So soon after he got destroyed by uga, he needed a strong finish, and then he had another unimpressive performance. Certainly not good enough one to suddenly become the heisman favorite. You don’t seem to have a good understanding of heisman voting.
I mean he never played another snap after "struggling" vs South Carolina and still finished 5th.
He would've been able to clean up the numbers a bit vs South Carolina (had he not been injured) as they would've been playing prevent then he could've piled on Vandy the following week.
Just my unbiased opinion.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 3:08 pm to SidewalkTiger
quote:And yet I found another article saying Bo Nix was the QB to watch.
I mean he never played another snap after "struggling" vs South Carolina and still finished 5th.
Profootballnetwork
Keep in mind, you didn't say he was in the race. You said he "likely" would have won.
I won't argue that Bennett would have gone regardless. I doubt he would have. But I doubt most people would agree that Hooker "Likely" would have won.
CAN you say it? Absolutely. CAN I say I doubt it? Absolutely. Either way neither of us can prove our point correct and it makes your "Likely" stance doubtful. It's not like his performances were getting better. His performances against Georgia and South Carolina would have tanked him.
You and Smokey act like he was going to win the Heisman with a stellar performance against Vanderbilt. No. When he faltered against Georgia and South Carolina he lost his Heisman chances.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 3:12 pm to SidewalkTiger
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mean he never played another snap after "struggling" vs South Carolina and still finished 5th.
247 on 42 throws against a bad D is not a good look. Those quotations you added imply you don’t understand that.
Dying on a hill with smokeyone is quite the decision for you.
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he could've piled on Vandy the following week.
That’s exactly what all voters are waiting to see. Certainly more so than Bennett destroying LSU on championship Saturday.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 3:13 pm to SidewalkTiger
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I mean he never played another snap after "struggling" vs South Carolina and still finished 5th.
His loss to South Carolina was enough to sink his chances.
By the way....your poll showing him at 2nd was pre South Carolina.
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He would've been able to clean up the numbers a bit vs South Carolina (had he not been injured)
You mean clean his numbers up against Vanderbilt? Pretty sure the committee would have been pretty unimpressed.
Just my unbiased opinion.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 3:15 pm to DawgsLife
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And yet I found another article saying Bo Nix was the QB to watch.
Profootballnetwork
Same article lists Hooker with the second best odds to win.
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When he faltered against Georgia and South Carolina he lost his Heisman chances.
Georgia didn't seem to hurt him too much.
His numbers vs South Carolina would've looked a lot better with them playing prevent in the 4th quarter had he not gotten hurt.
But again, all of this is just my opinion.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 3:19 pm to djsdawg
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Dying on a hill with smokeyone is quite the decision for you.
I don't care about Smokeyone, just my opinion.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 3:22 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Same article lists Hooker with the second best odds to win.
If only South Carolina hadn't happened. If only....
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Georgia didn't seem to hurt him too much.
Alone? No. Paired with South Carolina? Absolutely. You have to show up in the biggest games, and he did not. You can argue LSU and Alabama. But with the playoffs on the line he folded. He wasn't going to recover from that.
But look. If you want to hold on to that, go ahead. It's no skin off my teeth.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 3:27 pm to DawgsLife
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He wasn't going to recover from that.
As you said, there's just no way of knowing so we all have to form our own opinions.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 3:32 pm to SidewalkTiger
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don't care about Smokeyone, just my opinion.
When you opinion matches his, in a football discussion, you should be concerned, and immediately question your own judgement.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 3:46 pm to djsdawg
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When you opinion matches his, in a football discussion, you should be concerned, and immediately question your own judgement.
In this particular case it's just an opinion.
There's no correct answer.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 3:53 pm to SidewalkTiger
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In this particular case it's just an opinion. There's no correct answer.
There is a likely answer, and a reasonable opinion.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 3:55 pm to SidewalkTiger
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As you said, there's just no way of knowing so we all have to form our own opinions.
Absolutely. And I have been known to be wrong from time to time. Just ask my wife.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 3:56 pm to djsdawg
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There is a likely answer, and a reasonable opinion.
Which is?
Posted on 5/14/23 at 4:05 pm to SidewalkTiger
He was already behind stroud, but you told us that. Voters aren’t impressed by 2 bad games in November, and voters don’t care about Vanderbilt.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 4:08 pm to djsdawg
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Voters aren’t impressed by 2 bad games in November, and voters don’t care about Vanderbilt.
I don't know, the man still got like 17 first place votes despite missing an entire game and some time vs USCe.
But fair enough.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 4:20 pm to SidewalkTiger
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don't know, the man still got like 17 first place votes
Safe to assume he was in line for many more than that before the UGA game, and a good amount more before SC.
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despite missing an entire game and some time vs USCe.
Considering how bad he played, it’s probably a good thing he didn’t finish the 4th q against the vaunted Carolina D.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 4:25 pm to djsdawg
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree
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