re: Statistical Analysis of Alabama and officiating

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I imply that charging $1 annually for rent creates a perception of quid pro quo.

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UA is not located in Birmingham.

Mike Slive is a native of Utica, NY.

SEC Head of Officials Rogers Redding is a native of Georgetown, KY.




Yep, I can see the obvious Bama bias.

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Someone's birthplace has soooooo much to do with the discussion at hand.

Nick Saban was born in West Virginia and Bear Bryant was born in Arkansas. What does that have to do with this? About as much as your post.

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Then please point out the obvious quid pro quo as I do not see it.

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Someone's birthplace has soooooo much to do with the discussion at hand.

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it has as much to do as the location of the sec office. If slive had graduated fro UA then maybe, but that still doesnt mean a graduate cant be impartial. This is like other fans saying LSU never gets caught with violations because they know the right people in the NCAA office. There is no proof of that other than the football team has been investigated but nothing ever happens. You cant draw that conclusion.

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Nice personal attack, BTW.

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Just a fact. Aren't you proud to be a Bamatard?

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Then there is none

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I doubt you will agree, but having the SEC offices in Bham, amongst many bama fans is a situation that will affect biases. When your family lives, shops, dines, sends their kids to the same schools with many bama fans, most people will develop an affinity for those they live closely with.

Maybe the SEC office is completely immune from this, but I doubt it.

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Still looking for your quid pro quo, I see.

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I see you still have a problem reading posts. I mentioned a perception of quid pro quo. Appearances matter, like it or not.

If you can show me where I personally said it was definitely happening, please post it.

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So what you're saying is, there's a conspiracy to get either a Bama/Vandy or MSU/Vandy matchup in the SECCG?

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You're missing the point. And badly at that.

The question is, can a team cause its opponents to commit more penalties? Alabama's opponents have ranked 4th, 1st, 1st, 6th, and 3rd over the last 5 years in most penalties. That is too consistent to be blind luck.

So the theory is, maybe better teams cause their opponents to commit more penalties because they have to grab, hold, push, etc. to stay with the better talent.

But this theory is debunked when you consider that over the last 4 years, Vandy, MSU, and two 6-6 Bama teams have led the SEC in opponents' penalties.

In other words, it's random variation for everyone else, but consistently at the top for Bama, whether it's Shula or Saban, whether it's 6-6 or 12-0.

Now that you're all caught up, what is your opinion? Can a team cause its opponents to commit more penalties, why or why not, and how to explain the above data?

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LSU killed themselves early an often with unforced penalties brah.

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Correct. This thread is about the last 5 years, not last Saturday.

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Other factors go into a won/loss record such as TO's. Have you factored that or what type of penalties are involved? Hard to draw conclusions with half the facts.

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I'm not sure I follow your question.

Over each of the last 5 years, Bama has been the only SEC team to finish in the top half in most opponent's penalties. Every other team has bounced around randomly, as you would expect.

After all, you can't control how many penalties your opponents commit. So it's randomness.

I'm wondering why Bama has been the exception to the randomness.

Weird how the LSU fans didn't give a damn about the office location until Bama started beating them.

THERE HAS TO BE A REASON!! Right?