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Posted on 6/7/13 at 3:59 am to Sheetbend
I've fine with that.
So we don't count the Bama-UT game
Don't count the LSU-Florida game.
Don't count the A&M-Mizzou game.
In 2012:
Bama goes 6-1, with a loss to A&M.
LSU goes 6-1, with a loss to Bama.
Texas A&M goes 5-2, with a loss to LSU and a loss to Florida.
Bama still wins the West.
In 2011, LSU goes undefeated so they still win the West.
In 2010, Auburn goes undefeated so they still win the West
In 2009, Bama goes undefeated so they still win the West
In 2008, Bama goes undefeated so they still win the West
Are you sure this is gonna change anything?
So we don't count the Bama-UT game
Don't count the LSU-Florida game.
Don't count the A&M-Mizzou game.
In 2012:
Bama goes 6-1, with a loss to A&M.
LSU goes 6-1, with a loss to Bama.
Texas A&M goes 5-2, with a loss to LSU and a loss to Florida.
Bama still wins the West.
In 2011, LSU goes undefeated so they still win the West.
In 2010, Auburn goes undefeated so they still win the West
In 2009, Bama goes undefeated so they still win the West
In 2008, Bama goes undefeated so they still win the West
Are you sure this is gonna change anything?
Posted on 6/7/13 at 4:04 am to Sheetbend
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Tell me where I am wrong?
The fact you keep.making Florid out to be this great team is one way you're wrong. The fact you keep lumping aTm with a difficult schedule when it is as easy as ours is another. The fact you keep posing as an OH St fan is another. The idea that you flame every thread or make some reference to the schedule whether related or not is another. And finally the idea that if you truly are an OH St fan and come to an sec message board to complain about schedules when you play in that joke of a conf known as the big ten with no competition on your way to the title game even though Bama will still have a more difficult schedule than OH St you hypocrit is yet another. Our point is that we don't give a flying frick if LSU plays Florida or not but leave TSIO as a conf game the frick alone, leave GA/ AU the frick alone as neither of the four schools seem to care about having to play each other regardless of how good the other happens to be at that time.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 4:22 am to genro
quote:What if I told you Les Miles was talking about the unfairness of the permanent opponent rule back in 2006 concerning Arkansas, whom LSU had beaten that year, but won the West due to an LSU loss to Florida, whom Arkansas didn't play that year.
My point is no one ever bitches except when Bama's on top. Bama's up and UT's down right now. That's no reason to end what is historically the most significant rivalry in SEC history.
Stop bitching.
Alabama was irrelevant back then.
AUfamily
Posted on 6/7/13 at 4:31 am to Prof
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LSU drew a tough schedule this year with UGA and Florida, no doubt about that, but that's piss poor luck.
This is a dead horse we are all beating but the word luck is not appropriate. Last year's and this year's schedules are not luck, they were engineered
2007:
Alabama: Tennessee (10-4), UGA (11-2), Vandy (5-7)
LSU: Florida (9-4), USC (6-6), KY (8-5)
2008:
Alabama: Tennessee (5-7), UGA (10-3), KY (7-6)
LSU: Fla (13-1), UGA (10-3), USC (7-6)
2009:
Alabama: Tenn (7-6), USC (7-6), KY (7-6)
LSU: Fla (13-1), UGA (8-5), Vandy (2-10)
2010:
Alabama: Tenn (6-7), Fla (8-5), USC (9-5)
LSU: Fla (8-5), Tenn (6-7), Vandy (2-10)
2011:
Alabama: Tenn (5-7), Fla (7-6), Vandy (6-7)
LSU: Fla (7-6), Tenn (5-7), KY (5-7)
END OF NORMAL ROTATION WITH ADDITION OF MU/A&M
Note that LSU would have normally played Kentucky again in 2012 and LSU played UGA more recently than Alabama (2009 vs 2008).
Despite this, in 2012 LSU is slated to travel to UGA while Alabama is scheduled to visit Kentucky (when the reverse appears logical). Especially given that this is a bridge schedule that allows the SEC office some flexibility to generate appealing matchups it would have made a lot of sense for the SEC to just line up USC vs A&M, Bama vs UGA, and LSU vs Fla to balance out the schedules of the top three teams from each division (heck even the probable #4s in Ole Miss and Vandy will play).
2012:
Alabama: Tenn (5-7), Missouri (5-7)
LSU: Fla (11-2), USC (11-2)
2013:
Alabama: Tenn, Ky
LSU: Fla, UGA
This post was edited on 6/7/13 at 4:33 am
Posted on 6/7/13 at 4:44 am to genro
quote:I am fine with that, but the story didn't stop there. Due to the bridge schedule, Bama skipped Georgia that year and TAM was given Florida.
In 2012: Bama goes 6-1, with a loss to A&M. LSU goes 6-1, with a loss to Bama.
Texas A&M goes 5-2, with a loss to LSU and a loss to Florida.
Bama still wins the West.
TAM beat Alabama, but Alabama wins the division title.
TAM got Florida and lost the game while Bama got Missouri instead of Georgia--their originally scheduled opponent.
For some reason, Bama keeps getting cupcake schedules even with specially designed bridge schedules, which look very fishy indeed.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 4:45 am to molsusports
Serious question do you really think Florida is an 11 win team this year with the offense they have been putting on the field and the players they lost on defense? I think they lose to GA and SC, LSU as well. I am reserving judgement on TN but I would not be surprised if TN has the ability to legitimately pull what as of now would be viewed as an upset. I may be completely wrong on Florida this year but their offense was putrid last year. LSU didn't rep the west not because of a Loss to Florida but a loss to Bama.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 4:49 am to Sheetbend
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Bama keeps getting cupcake schedules
Good Lord, so two years is equivalent to every year. You suck at this.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 4:49 am to Sheetbend
We literally just got done playing Florida.
We had a home and home 2010 and 2011
In fact, we played Florida every year in 2008, 2009, 2010, and 2011.
But we didn't play them in 2012 and everyone cries.
Jesus
We had a home and home 2010 and 2011
In fact, we played Florida every year in 2008, 2009, 2010, and 2011.
But we didn't play them in 2012 and everyone cries.
Jesus
Posted on 6/7/13 at 4:53 am to genro
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We literally just got done playing Florida
Not to mention KY and Vanderbilt just rotated off of LSU and 2 of the last 3 yrs Florida was average at best and including their offensive performance last year an argument can b made they really overachieved.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 4:57 am to labamafan
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Serious question do you really think Florida is an 11 win team this year with the offense they have been putting on the field and the players they lost on defense? I think they lose to GA and SC, LSU as well. I am reserving judgement on TN but I would not be surprised if TN has the ability to legitimately pull what as of now would be viewed as an upset. I may be completely wrong on Florida this year but their offense was putrid last year. LSU didn't rep the west not because of a Loss to Florida but a loss to Bama.
I think Florida will again be better than they should be when you look at their team's production. n=1 but Boom seems to know how to coach and managed to beat both LSU and A&M last year after all.
RE: their actual record? Dunno. I'd guess somewhere around 10 wins (possible losses against LSU, USC, UGA, FSU). Which is pretty near identical to what you should expect out of UGA (possible losses against Clemson, USC, Florida, LSU) or the 10-11 wins you should probably expect out of South Carolina (possible losses Fla, UGA, Clemson)
This is why it would have made a lot of sense for LSU/Fla, Bama/UGA, and A&M/USC to face off in teh regular season so there would be more games between what are expected to be the top six teams in the SEC
Posted on 6/7/13 at 4:58 am to labamafan
I don't know why all the coaches except Saban voted against a 9-game schedule. It's like they WANT something to bitch about.
With an 8-game SEC schedule, you're only gonna see your non-permanent twice every 12 goddamn years.
Even when we do play Georgia home-and-home it will be a FULL DECADE until we play them again. Same thing with every other team and their cross-divisional opponents.
We need a nine-game SEC schedule. Tell Les Miles, Steve Spurrier, and all the others coaches aside from Saban to quit being pansies.
With an 8-game SEC schedule, you're only gonna see your non-permanent twice every 12 goddamn years.
Even when we do play Georgia home-and-home it will be a FULL DECADE until we play them again. Same thing with every other team and their cross-divisional opponents.
We need a nine-game SEC schedule. Tell Les Miles, Steve Spurrier, and all the others coaches aside from Saban to quit being pansies.
This post was edited on 6/7/13 at 4:59 am
Posted on 6/7/13 at 5:00 am to labamafan
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Not to mention KY and Vanderbilt just rotated off of LSU
If you look at the schedules KY and LSU did not finish their rotation as normal. They were supposed to play in 2012 but did not when schedules were juggled. If you look at the schedules UGA played with LSU and Bama recently you'll also notice UGA had played LSU more recently but instead of playing Bama first LSU was substituted.
This is why the special SEC schedules that were arranged this year smell so funny to anyone who looks at the timelines. There seems to have been every reason for LSU to play at KY while Bama played at UGA instead of the reverse.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 5:02 am to molsusports
quote:You know there are 5 other teams in the SEC West right? Not everything is done only with respect to LSU and Alabama
If you look at the schedules UGA played with LSU and Bama recently you'll also notice UGA had played LSU more recently but instead of playing Bama first LSU was substituted.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 5:10 am to labamafan
I ask you what is wrong with my post and you totally ignore every point I made.
Unlike you, I can respond to your points.
Both Alabama and TAM have very easy schedules this year. However, TAM beat Bama last year, but Bama won the West due to TAM playing Florida--wow!
Please define flame and troll. I don't think you and I have the same definitiion.
Unlike you, I can respond to your points.
quote:Florida has won 85% of its divisional games since 2001. The most of all teams in the East. Florida is 8-0 against Tennessee for the past 8 years. So yes, Florida is the best program in the East by a large margin.
The fact you keep.making Florid out to be this great team is one way you're wrong.
quote:
The fact you keep lumping aTm with a difficult schedule when it is as easy as ours is another.
Both Alabama and TAM have very easy schedules this year. However, TAM beat Bama last year, but Bama won the West due to TAM playing Florida--wow!
quote:If you can give an example of a flame of mine, you will be the first to do so.
The idea that you flame every thread
Please define flame and troll. I don't think you and I have the same definitiion.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 5:14 am to genro
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You know there are 5 other teams in the SEC West right? Not everything is done only with respect to LSU and Alabama
the prestige of the SEC rests on the shoulders of the top teams in the conference contending for and winning the SEC and NCs. The priority should be seeing those top six teams (Bama, A&M, LSU, UGA, USC, Fla) play the opposite division teams.
There was a lot of wiggle room when rivalries like Arky/USC are being replaced with Arky/MU and most of the SEC has 2-3 garbage opponents on their schedule.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 5:14 am to genro
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I don't know why all the coaches except Saban voted against a 9-game schedule. It's like they WANT something to bitch about.
For the majority of SEC programs (non-perennial powers) they don't want to play the SEC perennial powers more often, which is the same reason why they want to keep the permanent opponent rule. the permanent opponent rule protects them from playing the big-three from each division more often.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 5:15 am to molsusports
As I have stated before I do think LSU should not have had to play GA this yr if they were not due to roll onto their schedule. I think Florida is not a very strong team this yr yr but I agree they will b back. I don't think Muschamp is a great coach though. Him beating LSU last yr is kind of like Spurrier 98 in regards to LSU beating Florida. It was a fluke. LSU biggest problem is inconsistent qb play. I do want a nine game sec schedule so we get to see other sec team's and would like to add two good west team's and send Auburn and Bama to the east. That keeps all of our rivalries in tact.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 5:19 am to Sheetbend
Who are the Big 3?
This post was edited on 6/7/13 at 5:20 am
Posted on 6/7/13 at 5:23 am to labamafan
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I think Florida is not a very strong team this yr yr but I agree they will b back. I don't think Muschamp is a great coach though. Him beating LSU last yr is kind of like Spurrier 98 in regards to LSU beating Florida. It was a fluke.
One win is a fluke, a bunch of quality wins is no fluke. Boom took that team way further than they should have been able to go last year and he did it with a well conditioned tough team and by making other teams play the way he wanted him to play. To recount his significant games last year:
1) beat A&M @ A&M... simply wore down the team and shut down Manziel
2) beat LSU at home... wore down LSU as the game went on
3) beat the dogshit out of a quality South Carolina team (won by 33 points)
4) went to FSU and beat a 12-2 FSU team on their grass 37-26
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would like to add two good west team's and send Auburn and Bama to the east
yeah the GOR agreement the Big 12 and ACC have signed makes it pretty well impossible for us to pick up anyone worth picking up.
Since we're stuck with 14 teams the obvious scheduling solution is probably the roommate switch: LINK
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