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Posted on 5/26/23 at 3:01 pm to meansonny
Posted on 5/26/23 at 3:01 pm to meansonny
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I only take exception to the claim that he is some great tactician.
Take it up with Saban, he's the one who said it.
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He's everything you want in your CEO
That's contradictory
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 3:05 pm to meansonny
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It's LSU fans who always enter Coach O in a discussion which has absolutely nothing to do with Coach O.
By the criteria that people use to argue against Kelly, Orgeron is a top 5 coach today.
I think that's the point many LSU fans use O to make because O is clearly not even a top 30 coach.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 3:07 pm to SidewalkTiger
Let it go.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 3:08 pm to SidewalkTiger
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He's everything you want in your CEO
That's contradictory
You can be a great CEO and not be an excellent tactician.
Kirby Smart wasn't calling offensive plays last season. But he's a great coach and great CEO.
This isn't rocket science.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 3:12 pm to DawginSC
Jumbo sucks dicke, Mack is washed up. Riley is a pu55y. Hard to have conference championships at Norte Dame. He won SEC West in 1st year, while Jimbo is yet to win. Riley chickened out and went to weak arse PAC 12. He don’t want none,
Posted on 5/26/23 at 3:13 pm to meansonny
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You can be a great CEO and not be an excellent tactician.
Kirby Smart wasn't calling offensive plays last season. But he's a great coach and great CEO.
This isn't rocket science.
The word "tactician" used in this context wouldn't apply only to on field strategy therefore it's impossible to be a good CEO without being a good tactician.
I don't think anyone believes Kelly is some brilliant X's and O's mind.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 3:14 pm to meansonny
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Let it go.
It angers some when the Ed O argument is used against them because they understand that their criteria is flawed but they need it to convince themselves that Kelly sucks.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 3:15 pm to SidewalkTiger
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The word "tactician" used in this context wouldn't apply only to on field strategy therefore it's impossible to be a good CEO without being a good tactician.
I don't think anyone believes Kelly is some brilliant X's and O's mind.
We don't use the words the same.
Agree to disagree. Cheers.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 3:18 pm to meansonny
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We don't use the words the same.
Agree to disagree. Cheers.
That would seem to be the issue.
Saban and I are using it more in a bigger picture context where you're using it more as a literal, game day, on the field strategist, manner.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 3:18 pm to SidewalkTiger
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It angers some when the Ed O
I don't know anyone who gets angered by Ed O references.
It is more sad than anything.
Gene Chizik and Jimbo Fisher were icons to people once. It's kind of sad when fans cling to those icons. It's comes off as desperate.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 3:20 pm to SidewalkTiger
I don't equate micro manager to a tactition.
One attributes attention to detail while the other attributes a high level of skill in a specific craft.
As I said, we see the word differently.
One attributes attention to detail while the other attributes a high level of skill in a specific craft.
As I said, we see the word differently.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 3:21 pm to SidewalkTiger
My apologies for screwing the pooch on the Oklahoma state reference.
I saw 7-5 bowl record but didn't count up the losses.
I was wrong.
I saw 7-5 bowl record but didn't count up the losses.
I was wrong.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 3:23 pm to meansonny
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I don't know anyone who gets angered by Ed O references.
It is more sad than anything.
Gene Chizik and Jimbo Fisher were icons to people once. It's kind of sad when fans cling to those icons. It's comes off as desperate.
Hence the flawed criteria
Posted on 5/26/23 at 3:27 pm to meansonny
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I don't equate micro manager to a tactition.
One attributes attention to detail while the other attributes a high level of skill in a specific craft.
The word "tactician" simply means
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a person who uses a carefully planned strategy to achieve a specific end.
Anyone who is any kind of "good" manager of anything, whether it be an offense, a football program, a supermarket, or a Fortune 500 company absolutely has to be a "good tactician."
You can't be one without the other.
Can you luck into success without being a good tactician? Absolutely. But to actually manage something successfully, you must be a good tactician.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 3:41 pm to SidewalkTiger
By your definition, manager is a synonym to tactician.
And the words just don't work that way.
And the words just don't work that way.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 3:56 pm to meansonny
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By your definition
Well it isn't my definition, it's simply the definition of the word.
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manager is a synonym to tactician.
And the words just don't work that way.
Manager is absolutely not a synonym of the word "tactician."
A great manager has to be a tactician.
A bad manager doesn't.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 4:01 pm to SidewalkTiger
Your usage of the word was
Manager = tactician.
Great manager = great tactician
That's a synonym
Manager = tactician.
Great manager = great tactician
That's a synonym
Posted on 5/26/23 at 4:01 pm to SidewalkTiger
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A bad manager doesn't
Lol
Bad manager = bad tactician.
You can't even see it.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 4:38 pm to TailbackU
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47. Eli Drinkowitz
what the frick??? way to high, he's done nothing in his time at mu
Posted on 5/26/23 at 4:57 pm to meansonny
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Your usage of the word was
Manager = tactician.
No it wasn't.
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