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Posted on 11/8/13 at 8:45 am to
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 8:45 am to
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Neither Bama nor Auburn came remotely close to containing JFF.


NOt the whole game but if you contain JFF for a few possessoins, you beat A&M.

That is what AU and Bama was able to do...contain him just enough.
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 8:46 am to
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Wut. Neither Bama nor Auburn came remotely close to containing JFF. He had two of his better games of his illustrious career against them.








It's what folks say. Obviously with a Defense like yours there are numerous ways to beat A&M.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 8:47 am to
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Can Auburn beat Bama by throwing the ball?


Auburn has a legit shot to beat Bama regardless if they throw well or not.
Posted by DWag215
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:08 am to
He had over 1,000 yards and 10 TDs in those games.

"Contain" is just horribly misleading.

Now had you said "keep JFF from scoring on literally every possession while personally amassing over 500 yards," I guess that's fine.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:10 am to
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"Contain" is just horribly misleading.


Well, I said "contain just enough". It is not misleading at all. That says he did his thing but was stopped enough times for the other teams to get the win. I would say that is very accurate. It shows that JFF got his yards and points but was stopped just a few times adn that was the difference in winning and losing.
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:11 am to
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It's what folks say. Obviously with a Defense like yours there are numerous ways to beat A&M.

There's really just one two:

1) knock JFF out for a couple possessions.

2) score TDs off turnovers.

Sometimes you need both. And of course scoring over 40 is a shared condition.
Posted by Texas Tea
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:11 am to
Y'all didn't contain shite, especially Johnny. We lost that game due to our awful defense.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:12 am to
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1) knock JFF out for a couple possessions.


AU did this to win.

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2) score TDs off turnovers.


Bama did this.
Posted by Schwaaz
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:13 am to
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Auburn has a legit shot to beat Bama regardless if they throw well or not.


AU will not beat Bama if they don't throw well. Like Obama said..... Period!
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:18 am to
You didn't qualify contain in your initial post.

Regardless, it's not really "containing" when the kid rapes your defense for nearly the entire game.

Contained should be reserved for games in which you actually prevent the player from doing whatever he wants sans like 2 possessions. Contained connotes a good defensive performance; that the D carried the day. But we all know TAMU lost those games because of its defense--the only one that's really stopped JFF.

But we're just discussing semantics now.

It just struck me as odd that you'd use "contain" to describe what AU and Bama did against JFF, even if you qualified it.
This post was edited on 11/8/13 at 9:21 am
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:18 am to
Nobody can stop AU's run anyway, so what's it matter?
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:18 am to
Right. There's two ways to beat TAMU, which was my point.

What's your point?
This post was edited on 11/8/13 at 9:21 am
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:20 am to
Contain just enough means JFF went off on AU the whole game save the final drive where he was sacked twice...that is why we won.
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:21 am to
You won because we have a steaming pile of shite for defense.

Of course this is obvious.
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