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re: So the West was overrated. Who would have thought that...
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:08 am to WDE24
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:08 am to WDE24
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You can try to hide behind this, but that wasn't the point then and isn't now. Your entire point of trying to knock down the West is in relation to how Mizzou is viewed. Your post history and incessant crying is proof.
The West, despite the losses yesterday, is still easily the best division in college football.
While I agree with your point about why the thread was created, I am not so sure the west is the best division in college football. I REALLY do believe that the west has a higher opinion of itself than it should and the way the Mississippi schools got beat and LSU's loss seems to support this. Don't get me wrong....I ALWAYS pull for SEC schools. But I think we (SEC) is not as strong as we have been. Part of that problem is Georgia, Florida,Tennessee and South Carolina being weaker than normal, but I also think that the west is not as strong as many thought earlier.
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Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:10 am to coachcrisp
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Really? That's how the majority of you coonass bastards think. I'd sure hate to be in a foxhole with any of y'all during wartime...a fanbase full of George Costanzas!
I agree. I will be pulling for Alabama, Auburn and any other SEC schools yet to play. I might snicker at the west because they are getting beat (ONLY because of the abuse heaped upon the east by the west earlier in the season) but I will hope all SEC teams win.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:11 am to kilo
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We went from 4 of the top 5 teams in the country and self proclaimed GOAT division in college football to what happened that last couple of days.
Thats all.
Look, the West is a good division but pardon the rest of us plebs while we laugh a little watching the house of cards crumble just a bit.
I never thought or said it was the GOAT but it's still the toughest division, top to bottom, in the country. But that's just my opinion. Those three losses over the past couple of days were to really good teams and Ole Miss hasn't been the same since losing Treadwell. MSU didn't have their DC in their bowl game and Georgia Tech is a damn good team.
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 10:17 am
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:11 am to DawgsLife
quote:It is abundantly obvious.
While I agree with your point about why the thread was created
quote:What division is better?
I am not so sure the west is the best division in college football. I REALLY do believe that the west has
quote:I'm sure some (many) fans do over inflate their opinion of the West.
I REALLY do believe that the west has a higher opinion of itself than it should
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 10:13 am
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:13 am to Porky
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No. I'm discussing facts. Did any team in the west lose to any bad team or below average team? The west may have gotten a lot of hype but it wasn't that much overrated.
Yes. According to fans of west teams, the last place west team could win the east. I think Georgia and Missouri proved this wrong. So, if every team in the east is worse than the worst team in the west....yes, some west teams lost to some bad teams. That said....LSU lost to Notre dame. A very ordinary team at best.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:16 am to DawgsLife
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While I agree with your point about why the thread was created
Look man, going into the season I would have been happy with 3rd in the East. After the Idniana loss, I would have been happy with a 7 win and a bowl game season. Im not sure how or why this straw man was created about me wanting "cred" for Mizzou. We lost to Indiana and coupled with the roster make-up and rebuild going into the season I had no visions of grandeur. So all this talk about me pointing out the West's deficiencies has nothing to do with making or wanting Mizzou to look better. Thats just a deflection in its truest sense to a rightful observation.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:18 am to Porky
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I never thought or said it was the GOAT but it's still the toughest division in the country.
Then this was not aimed at you. I have seen several people on here speculate that it was the GOAT,
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Those three losses over the past couple of days were to really good teams and Ole Miss hasn't been the same since losing Treadwell.
No. They weren't. Notre Dame certainly was NOT a "really good team." And Treadwell would not have kept TCU from scoring 40 points. Mississippi scored 40 points or more three times this past year....against Vanderbilt, LA-Lafayette and Presbetyrian. No. Treadwell would not have made a difference.
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MSU didn't have their DC in their bowl game
You mean, like Georgia didn't have their OC? No. No excuses.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:20 am to WDE24
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It is abundantly obvious.
This is a classic ad hominem. Its kind of sad.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:23 am to DawgsLife
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Yes. According to fans of west teams, the last place west team could win the east. I think Georgia and Missouri proved this wrong. So, if every team in the east is worse than the worst team in the west....yes, some west teams lost to some bad teams. That said....LSU lost to Notre dame. A very ordinary team at best.
I never believed that but some may have.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:23 am to WDE24
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What division is better?
Hard to say. I would have to take a good hard look. But man, the ACC is looking better right now. I mean, Clemson played well, GT beat our #2 team, and if FSU wins out a case could be made for the ACC being a better CONFERENCE. (I realize we are talkign about Divisions)The PAC 12 South is looking as strong right now. An argument could be made for them. Do I THINK they are? Probably not. But let's face it...the SEC West certainly isn't looking all that great, either.
AGAIN...this would never have happened if some of the west fans had shown just a touch of grace and humility. It's just not in your genes.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:24 am to WDE24
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I'm sure some (many) fans do over inflate their opinion of the West.
Honestly? I thought it was one of the greatest of all times, too. But we have to take an honest step back and reevaluate now, don't you think?
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:25 am to DawgsLife
So you agree that, despite the losses in these bowl games, the SEC West is still the best division in cfb?
If so, the West was rated 1st and is still 1st. Right?
If so, the West was rated 1st and is still 1st. Right?
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:27 am to DawgsLife
quote:It is a very good division.
I thought it was one of the greatest of all times, too.
quote:Sure, but we have to give credit to atm and Arky as well as looking at the losses, right?
But we have to take an honest step back and reevaluate now, don't you think?
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:27 am to DawgsLife
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this would never have happened if some of the west fans had shown just a touch of grace and humility. It's just not in your genes.
Which I believe is the point of the OP.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:28 am to Porky
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I never believed that but some may have.
It was said over and over again. Like I said....just a touch of grace and humility and the west wouldn't have had to eat so much crow now.
Believe me...I KNOW how it hurts to lose games you feel like you should win. (Florida, GT and South Carolina) we SHOULD have gone undefeated and played in the SECCG,b but we didn't take care of business and Mizzou did. Kudos to them. They earned it. I did not believe and do not believe Mizzou has a better team....but they won and we didn't. The west needs desperately to turn it around and start winning some games. I'm pulling for this to happen.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:29 am to Mizzou4ever
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Which I believe is the point of the OP.
We have a winner.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:29 am to Mizzou4ever
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Which I believe is the point of the OP.
Oh, I got it. And I agree with it. Sometimes when people treat others like trash, they need to be shown how it feels. I have no problem with the thread after what I witnessed this past season from the west.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:30 am to DawgsLife
quote:From fans on a message board? You can find it from a select few if you look for it, but it isn't going to be the hallmark of message board fans/posts no matter the division or team affiliation.
a touch of grace and humility
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 10:31 am
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:31 am to DawgsLife
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I agree. I will be pulling for Alabama, Auburn and any other SEC schools yet to play. I might snicker at the west because they are getting beat (ONLY because of the abuse heaped upon the east by the west earlier in the season) but I will hope all SEC teams win.
Seriously, I don't understand the mentality that so many of the poster here have. Do they really favor teams out of their own region over their familiar conference brothers? Sure, we all fight among ourselves and call each other names, BUT when it comes down to "outsiders" trying to abuse us...WHOA MULE! I'm not trying to single out any fanbase in particular, but it seems that a TON of LSU folks are against everybody but themselves. Maybe it's just me, but... 
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:32 am to WDE24
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Sure, but we have to give credit to atm and Arky as well as looking at the losses, right?
Yes. But which one of them played a legitimate opponent? The SEC still hasn't had a win that we can hang a hat on. The Mississippi/TCU game was a good opportunity. Just because of the reputations of the schools LSU/Notre Dame was another opportunity. Mississippi State/Tech was a third. We failed in every key game to date.
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