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Posted on 3/26/12 at 11:33 pm to Monticello
Posted on 3/26/12 at 11:33 pm to Monticello
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Not an attorney but I believe capital murder means you killed someone while committing another felony.
I think this is right - there has to be an underlying felony, like robbery or kidnapping. The article I posted above said the underlying felony in this case was the sale of drugs.
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Posted on 3/26/12 at 11:36 pm to Elleshoe
Well it was in Evans Hall which is a crappy dorm and I don't think you have to show ID to get in there... I think the only dorms on campus you have to show ID are in the new dorms. They pretty much put the "good" people in the new dorms and lesser reputable ones in the old dorms.
Posted on 3/26/12 at 11:37 pm to semotruman
this is the beginning of La.'s First Degree Murder statute (its got more but its long)
A. First degree murder is the killing of a human being:
(1) When the offender has specific intent to kill or to inflict great bodily harm and is engaged in the perpetration or attempted perpetration of aggravated kidnapping, second degree kidnapping, aggravated escape, aggravated arson, aggravated rape, forcible rape, aggravated burglary, armed robbery, assault by drive-by shooting, first degree robbery, second degree robbery, simple robbery, terrorism, cruelty to juveniles, or second degree cruelty to juveniles.
(2) When the offender has a specific intent to kill or to inflict great bodily harm upon a fireman, peace officer, or civilian employee of the Louisiana State Police Crime Laboratory or any other forensic laboratory engaged in the performance of his lawful duties, or when the specific intent to kill or to inflict great bodily harm is directly related to the victim’s status as a fireman, peace officer, or civilian employee.
(3) When the offender has a specific intent to kill or to inflict great bodily harm upon more than one person.
(4) When the offender has specific intent to kill or inflict great bodily harm and has offered, has been offered, has given, or has received anything of value for the killing.
(5) When the offender has the specific intent to kill or to inflict great bodily harm upon a victim who is under the age of twelve or sixty-five years of age or older.
(6) When the offender has the specific intent to kill or to inflict great bodily harm while engaged in the distribution, exchange, sale, or purchase, or any attempt thereof, of a controlled dangerous substance listed in Schedules I, II, III, IV, or V of the Uniform Controlled Dangerous Substances Law.
A. First degree murder is the killing of a human being:
(1) When the offender has specific intent to kill or to inflict great bodily harm and is engaged in the perpetration or attempted perpetration of aggravated kidnapping, second degree kidnapping, aggravated escape, aggravated arson, aggravated rape, forcible rape, aggravated burglary, armed robbery, assault by drive-by shooting, first degree robbery, second degree robbery, simple robbery, terrorism, cruelty to juveniles, or second degree cruelty to juveniles.
(2) When the offender has a specific intent to kill or to inflict great bodily harm upon a fireman, peace officer, or civilian employee of the Louisiana State Police Crime Laboratory or any other forensic laboratory engaged in the performance of his lawful duties, or when the specific intent to kill or to inflict great bodily harm is directly related to the victim’s status as a fireman, peace officer, or civilian employee.
(3) When the offender has a specific intent to kill or to inflict great bodily harm upon more than one person.
(4) When the offender has specific intent to kill or inflict great bodily harm and has offered, has been offered, has given, or has received anything of value for the killing.
(5) When the offender has the specific intent to kill or to inflict great bodily harm upon a victim who is under the age of twelve or sixty-five years of age or older.
(6) When the offender has the specific intent to kill or to inflict great bodily harm while engaged in the distribution, exchange, sale, or purchase, or any attempt thereof, of a controlled dangerous substance listed in Schedules I, II, III, IV, or V of the Uniform Controlled Dangerous Substances Law.
Posted on 3/26/12 at 11:37 pm to deltaland
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They pretty much put the "good" people in the new dorms and lesser reputable ones in the old dorms.
how do they know? that sounds like a lawsuit in the waitingPosted on 3/26/12 at 11:37 pm to Monticello
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I hope the prosecutor does not offer a plea, but he likely will and this will be a life without parole guilty plea.
If the student who was killed and the university wanted to press this case couldn't they request the death penalty. Murdering a college dorm isn't exactly a typical kind of murder that occurs.
Posted on 3/26/12 at 11:39 pm to semotruman
MISSISSIPPI CODE OF 1972
As Amended
SEC. 97-3-19. Homicide; murder defined; capital murder; lesser-included offenses.
(1) The killing of a human being without the authority of law by any means or in any manner shall be murder in the following cases:
(a) When done with deliberate design to effect the death of the person killed, or of any human being;
(b) When done in the commission of an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved heart, regardless of human life, although without any premeditated design to effect the death of any particular individual;
(c) When done without any design to effect death by any person engaged in the commission of any felony other than rape, kidnapping, burglary, arson, robbery .......
As Amended
SEC. 97-3-19. Homicide; murder defined; capital murder; lesser-included offenses.
(1) The killing of a human being without the authority of law by any means or in any manner shall be murder in the following cases:
(a) When done with deliberate design to effect the death of the person killed, or of any human being;
(b) When done in the commission of an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved heart, regardless of human life, although without any premeditated design to effect the death of any particular individual;
(c) When done without any design to effect death by any person engaged in the commission of any felony other than rape, kidnapping, burglary, arson, robbery .......
Posted on 3/26/12 at 11:39 pm to Elleshoe
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how do they know? that sounds like a lawsuit in the waiting
It's not specific to any race or anything like that... just if you go in the dorms the classier people are in the new ones and the trash/weirdos in the other ones. There are exceptions of course but I'm talking about as a majority.
It isn't hard to tell by looking/talking to them.
Posted on 3/26/12 at 11:39 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
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If the student who was killed and the university wanted to press this case couldn't they request the death penalty. Murdering a college dorm isn't exactly a typical kind of murder that occurs.
up to the DA but I'm sure the right people could put a little pressure on him to not accept a plea if all of the requirements for Miss.'s equivalent of first degree murder are met.
Posted on 3/26/12 at 11:42 pm to deltaland
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It's not specific to any race or anything like that... just if you go in the dorms the classier people are in the new ones and the trash/weirdos in the other ones. There are exceptions of course but I'm talking about as a majority.
It isn't hard to tell by looking/talking to them.
kinda weird. at LSU all the sorostitutes end up in one dorm for the most part but everyone else is scattered wherever. of course some dorms were nicer than others because of age but all required card access to open stairwell doors or the exterior doors way back in 2003. now all of the dorms are being renovated and you need a card to enter a floor from the elevator and shite.
Posted on 3/26/12 at 11:43 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
Good point Bundy
The DA will push for the death penalty based on the location and the pr diaster if he was to do otherwise
The DA will push for the death penalty based on the location and the pr diaster if he was to do otherwise
Posted on 3/26/12 at 11:46 pm to KillianRussell
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Good point Bundy The DA will push for the death penalty based on the location and the pr diaster if he was to do otherwise
Plus if the victim is found to be not involved and not the person the Murderer was looking for it makes his case look even worse.
Put his case on the coast and more than likely he gets the needle.
Posted on 3/26/12 at 11:48 pm to Elleshoe
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now all of the dorms are being renovated and you need a card to enter a floor from the elevator and shite.
Only ones like this are our new dorms.
I guess cause we've never really had a problem before on campus... all that may change now. With LSU being in Baton Rouge I could understand higher security... Starkville isn't a high crime rate town and isn't remotely close to a town that is.
Posted on 3/26/12 at 11:51 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
They would almost have to go that route even if they are not sure that can get death the DA's office would get roasted if they let the kid cop a plea. How great would the chances for re-election be for a DA that plays this soft ?
Posted on 3/26/12 at 11:54 pm to KillianRussell
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They would almost have to go that route even if they are not sure that can get death the DA's office would get roasted if they let the kid cop a plea. How great would the chances for re-election be for a DA that plays this soft ?
This is Mississippi. The DA would be run out of town if he tries to plea.
FWIW there has already been 2 executions this year. Mississippi don't play around with the death penalty. If warranted, it is given out as punishment.
This post was edited on 3/26/12 at 11:55 pm
Posted on 3/26/12 at 11:56 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
Then again our governor issued over 100 pardons including some people who had committed cold blooded murder....
Posted on 3/26/12 at 11:58 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
So the county in which this took place is not real liberal as often campus towns are? My point is the DA has to please the voters that elect him not the whole state, ya dig ?
Posted on 3/26/12 at 11:58 pm to KillianRussell
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So the county in which this took place is not real liberal as often campus towns are?
eta: not laughing at you but you've obviously never been to an SEC campus
This post was edited on 3/26/12 at 11:59 pm
Posted on 3/26/12 at 11:59 pm to deltaland
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Then again our governor issued over 100 pardons including some people who had committed cold blooded murder....
Also included a guy from my hometown who had a felony for selling steroids
But none of those guys were on death row and none convicted of Capitol murder.
Posted on 3/27/12 at 12:01 am to KillianRussell
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So the county in which this took place is not real liberal as often campus towns are? My point is the DA has to please the voters that elect him not the whole state, ya dig ?
Oktibbeha county and Starkville are extremely conservative and Mississippi State the most lConservative public university in the South.
Posted on 3/27/12 at 12:02 am to Elleshoe
I been to every SEC campus that matters and lived in the south longer than most posters here have been alive.
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