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re: SEC football teams ranked using different metrics

Posted on 6/9/19 at 4:06 pm to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

LSU has arguably already passed them.



Yeah depends on what you value. An argument can be made but I think we’re still a little behind them at least for now.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 4:06 pm to
LSU is ahead if they used recognized national titles instead of claimed (4 to 1 instead of 3 to 2).
This post was edited on 6/9/19 at 4:07 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 4:09 pm to
True though UGA has a slightly higher winning % and 2 more SEC titles.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

It’s crazy how LSU and UGA are almost identical after 125 years of football


Auburn is right there in a lot of the metrics, too.

Really close.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 4:16 pm to
I think of them as a step behind both

Maybe because we’ve more or less owned them for the last 12 years or so
This post was edited on 6/9/19 at 4:18 pm
Posted by TideFaninFl
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Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

It must suck to spend your life crying about asterisks in college football results. I'm glad LSU fans don't have to worry about these distinctions born of cheating.

Here are the facts according to the official NCAA record:

quote:
#5. Alabama
All-time record: 905-329-43
Win percentage: .726
First season: 1892


Actually since Alabama actually won the games, we are not crying. It is funny, I have the disks that show Alabama won the games..... to keep Alabama from being number 1 in almost everything college football, they had to hamper them

LSU just loses, so no need for asterisks

Posted by Happy Tide
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 7:28 pm to
quote:

Actually since Alabama actually won the games, we are not crying. It is funny, I have the disks that show Alabama won the games..... to keep Alabama from being number 1 in almost everything college football, they had to hamper them

LSU just loses, so no need for asterisks


LSU and other SEC teams are inconsequential to Alabama. They are provincial, backwater, hick-town teams. Alabama is, and has been since the 20's, a national contender and player.

Since Alabama now owns the best winning percentage in college football, most NC's, etc... there is really only one grand prize left.

That is the prize of total win leader. Alabama is only trailing Michigan by

952-343-36 (0.729)
934-320-44 (0.737)


18 games in totality. Not bad considering that Michigan started playing football 13 years before Alabama, during which time they played 43 games.

In fact, even taking Alabama's forfeits and vacates into account, if all football teams started playing football in the year 1899, Alabama then has the most all time wins with 897.

All-Time Win Leader since 1899


Posted by cyclingout
God's country, SC
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:31 pm to
With conference championships, did you include winning the east and the west? If not then I have a question
Posted by rockytop627
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:44 pm to
quote:

1. Alabama (5.58)
2. Tennessee (16.25)


Big 2
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:52 pm to
If we only have 8 SEC titles than Alabama has 905 wins. Can't have it both ways.
Posted by AUFan2015
Oneonta, Alabama
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:57 pm to
I just posted what Winsipedia had. Since it shows A&M with 18 and they haven't won the West I assume they aren't counting divisional championships, only if they won the conference championship game (or if they had the best conference record before championship games started; thanks Korin for clarifying.)

A&M's probably came from when they were in the Big12/SWC
This post was edited on 6/9/19 at 10:09 pm
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:58 pm to
It was best conference record before 92. Obviously there were years with co-champs. And years with teams playing a different amount of SEC games.
Posted by AUFan2015
Oneonta, Alabama
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 10:10 pm to
Thanks for clarifying. I didn't know how they determined it before conference championship games.
This post was edited on 6/9/19 at 10:26 pm
Posted by cyclingout
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Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:50 pm to
I was wondering about SCAR. It said they have 1 conference championship
Posted by AUFan2015
Oneonta, Alabama
Member since Oct 2013
1965 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:56 pm to
They won the 1969 ACC Championship Sports Reference
Posted by cyclingout
God's country, SC
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 10:37 pm to
Wow
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 10:56 pm to
quote:

Thanks for clarifying. I didn't know how they determined it before conference championship games.

And if 2 teams had the same SEC record then they were both co-champs regardless of a possible head-to-head result (like 1988).
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 10:56 pm to
They would've won the ACC in 84 for sure if they'd still been a member.
Posted by cyclingout
God's country, SC
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 7:18 am to
Dk, wasn't alive. How long was SCAR in the ACC?
Posted by bamabaum
Montgomery, AL
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:08 am to
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