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re: SEC Divisions - Yes or No?

Posted on 9/11/24 at 5:45 pm to
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
10238 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 5:45 pm to
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Go back to East and West, move Mizzou to West and Bama and Auburn to the East.



Of course. It’s so obvious its ridiculous. And this also gives even distribution of blue bloods
Posted by playmakers in space
Member since Sep 2018
1697 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 7:37 pm to
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I understand bragging about beating Ohio State and Michigan because they are above you all-time, the top 2 programs behind only Alabama, but gloating over defeating the lowly ACC and Big 12 is a riot.


It's laughable how you move goalposts when your asinine posts are rightfully mocked and ridiculed over and over again. You have never posted anything worthwhile. Even LimpWhiskeyDisk comes up with a cogent point every now and then, you just post nothing but shite.
Posted by Arkyologist
Appalachia
Member since Feb 2023
392 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 7:50 pm to
Yes there is, Mizzou needs to be with their old Big 12 brethren. Arkansas is a better fit with Ole Miss, Miss State and LSU
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9317 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 8:41 pm to
You have a point, but that $ also helps those smaller schools. Not to mention the experience playing a stronger opponent.

Not to mention the bragging rights if you do win.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9317 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 8:47 pm to
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Georgia, Alabama, Texas, Tennessee, Mississippi, Oklahoma, LSU, Vanderbilt

Mississippi State, Arkansas, Kentucky, South Carolina, Auburn, Florida, Missouri, Texas A&M


A - HOW did you decide on this grouping?
B - There are SEVERAL M.B.P. games between the groups. So your scheduling format for keeping those is going to be...? (hint: Ala. & UGA have 2 each. ;) )
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9317 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 8:50 pm to
You'ld be surprised how many UGA fans WANT to play Alabama more often.
Posted by N0T SURE
Member since Dec 2023
1823 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 9:44 pm to
Seems like no directional schools would increase the value of TV contracts by a decent amount, and you'd get to play those rotational conference teams a little more often. As far as the smaller schools missing out on the money, they'll have to figure something out...they can't count on being subsidized by the big schools forever.
Posted by Tiger Live2
Westwego, LA
Member since Mar 2012
9875 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 9:44 pm to
If we go to 9 game conference schedule, we should have divisions. Otherwise there will be an unfair advantage.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
6285 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 10:11 pm to
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Of course. It’s so obvious its ridiculous. And this also gives even distribution of blue bloods

The East would be more top heavy but the West would be better overall.

Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9317 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 11:30 pm to
True...You don't hear the B1G (or others) scheduling them.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9317 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 11:33 pm to
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The East would be more top heavy but the West would be better overall.


Which is it: the past "East was too easy" & now "More top heavy"?
Posted by David Ricky
Hailing From Parts Unknown
Member since Sep 2015
25863 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 11:38 pm to
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I suppose I don't care either way. As long as we play Tennessee every year, that's all that matters to me.


Respect

Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37001 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 11:48 pm to
Pods are fairly straightforward with either 8 or 9 conference games.

NW: Oklahoma, Texas, Missouri, Arkansas
SW: LSU, A&M, OM, MSU
NC: Alabama, Tennessee, Kentucky, Vanderbilt
SE: Florida, Georgia, Auburn, South Carolina

You play one other pod home and away and rotate to the next pod. With 8 conference games you get one other similar quality team. If you have 9 conference games you keep two permanents every year.

The lower tier teams (eg Kentucky and Vanderbilt in the NE group) get lower tier opponents fixed out of group to compensate for tougher in group opponents. The SE group also gets one fewer upper tier opponent out of group to adjust for the extra big six opponent in group. Lastly I played around with the fixed opponents to spread around the games in bigger recruiting states like Texas, Florida, Georgia, Alabama and Louisiana.

That yielded opponents:

NW:
Oklahoma: LSU, Tennessee, Georgia
Texas: A&M, Alabama, Auburn
Arkansas: OM, Vanderbilt, Florida
Missouri: MSU, Kentucky, South Carolina
SW:
LSU: Oklahoma, Alabama, Florida
A&M: Texas, Tennessee, Georgia
OM: Arkansas, Vanderbilt, Auburn
MSU: Missouri, Kentucky, South Carolina
SE:
Florida: Tennessee, LSU, Arkansas
Georgia: Kentucky, A&M, Oklahoma
Auburn: Alabama, OM, Texas
South Carolina: Vanderbilt, MSU, Missouri
NE:
Alabama: Auburn, Texas, LSU
Tennessee: Florida, Oklahoma, A&M
Kentucky: Georgia, Missouri, MSU
Vanderbilt: South Carolina, Arkansas, OM

You could easily switch Auburn and Kentucky with similar effects. Either way Auburn is playing either Alabama or Georgia from the other group.

I lean towards Auburn in the SE group because it places Kentucky in a geographically logical group (playing their traditional interest in Tennessee) and Auburn has rivalry histories with both Georgia and Florida in the SE but only Alabama and not Tennessee in the north central group.
This post was edited on 9/11/24 at 11:49 pm
Posted by BigOrangeKen
Union City
Member since Oct 2015
3887 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 12:38 am to
You know I liked having divisions but man some years it was horrible having
Bama
Ga
Fla
On your schedule plus the other rotation of teams especially when they are all playing well.
But teams change over time and coaches some get better some drop off like we did
Hopefully in a year or two we will be back
Heupel is doing a great job and if anyone thinks otherwise then you are not a football fan.
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
4912 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 8:51 am to
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Doesn’t matter, but we need to dump the SECCG immediately
100%
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
3201 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 9:23 am to
Which is it: the past "East was too easy" & now "More top heavy"?

Any division that has vandy has a 7 game sec schedule. That’s a scheduling advantage anyway you slice it.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15248 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 9:28 am to
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This is what the SEC initially proposed. This format INSTANTLY KILLS DSOR. No thank you!


You would get it every other year. And 2nd off, the best system shouldn’t be held up for 1 non in state rivalry game.
Posted by Reece Bobby
Member since Sep 2024
397 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 9:40 am to
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I’ve had enough of being in the SECW


Spoken like a true Gen Z person who doesn't like competition
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
10238 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 9:48 am to
quote:

The East would be more top heavy but the West would be better overall.


In that East/West scenario, each side would have 4-1/2 traditional powers - the way I look at it.

It's a tough conference, no way around it. There is no way to divide it up where LSU and/or Georgia feel like they have a cake walk.

7 divisional games and 2 cross-division games each year.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9317 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 10:02 am to
Why wouldn't you put same-state schools together (Tx./TA&M & Ala./Aub.)?

Granted creating pods WHILE keeping annual rivalries makes this path interesting.
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