re: SEC announces 2018 SEC Baseball Awards

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Didn't notice at first, but thanks you made my point for me...11rbis against our 4 toughest opponents, same as Martin had all year Vs the SEC

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Martin hits in the two hole, so how many RBI opportunities do you think he is going to get overall? Probably not many being sandwiched between Eric Cole and Luke Bonfield and then Kjerstad.

When looking at Martins overall body of work, his OOC games include Southern Cal, Kent State, Texas, Texas Tech, San Diego State, Arizona, and Missouri State. So using the "SEC only" argument is pretty pointless for you.

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it is not close

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if it wasn't close, then Keenan would have run away with FOY and would have made the all-freshman team. People really need to stop using this phrase in arguments. I promise it doesn't add anything to the point you're trying to make. And, generally speaking, when it is used, it almost never is the case and it generally isn't the case because there wouldn't even be a discussion if it wasn't close.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you haven't watched Martin play outside the games he played against Ole Miss. Not that there's anything wrong with that, as very few people probably watch many college baseball games where their team isn't involved. We tend to think our own players are better than others simply because we have no point of comparison. I've said it plenty of time, Keenan is clearly a great player, but the SEC is stacked with talented freshman. Other good players were left off too.

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I was talking about the all defensive team. India vs Keenan.

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so am I. In that post I was at least. Keenan had a very minimal lead in fielding % compared to India. He also had 50 fewer fielding opportunities. And in a sample size as small as Keenan's, it is very short-sighted to say "well his fielding % is better so he should have been on the all-defense team." Have you honestly watched Florida play much this year? Or are you just looking at stats? Like I said, Keenan makes one more error and his fielding% drops 13 points. Would one error make him a considerably worse fielder? No, it wouldn't. That's all I'm trying to say. More goes into being the best at your position than simply fielding % especially in sample sizes that small

Yes. That’s why I used double play stats and changed to India. The point is you have to use the comparative stats. No one watched every game of every player. Zabowski isn’t even the best defender to play at first this year for us. He has no business on an all defense team. Some of these are just pulled out of the sky.

if that is the case you wouldn’t be pushing the narrative that Martin sandbagged his good games against bad teams because that is objectively false

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he is better in every category by a long margin against better competition.. good bye

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No he’s not you’re just completely ignoring the stats that don’t support your argument. Not to mention Arkansas played a MUCH more difficult schedule. Martin had a higher BA and more HRs, RBIs, SLUG, etc than your boy. I’m sorry, but the SEC-only stats you want to use are not as relevant as you think they are with Arkansas’ schedule. You didn’t even play the same SEC schedule. And those “crap teams” you called Arkansas OOC opponents are better than several SEC teams on Ole Miss’ schedule

Not sure how Will Holland was not first team SS other than Shewmake having name recognition. His numbers from the leadoff spot are pretty remarkable. .329 10 HR and 45 RBI so he had better offensive numbers than Shewmake, played a harder schedule and was on a better team.

He took a step back for sure. It was still fairly close.

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TearsofKnowshon

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O'Sullivan winning COY over Stricklin is questionable considering the preseason expectations for both teams.

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