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Posted on 3/21/23 at 11:31 am to Jon Ham
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They don’t have to I guess, but their failure to provide the information is taken as an admission.
By you and other idiots in a rush to judgment. Thinking people will be patient and wait for the facts, speedy.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 11:32 am to ReauxlTide222
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You’ve trolled SO much over the past that nothing you say on a subject like this matters at all
I mean these are facts and there’s a shitload of news links. Wtf
Posted on 3/21/23 at 11:33 am to biclops
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That is the problem of the person drawing conclusions.
Not really. Juries make conclusions and findings of fact every day with incomplete information. It’s only in a criminal trial setting where a refusal to answer can’t and shouldn’t be used against you.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 11:35 am to bamameister
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By you and other idiots in a rush to judgment. Thinking people will be patient and wait for the facts, speedy.
Bama and Miller have had plenty of time to answer the question. What’s the delay?
Posted on 3/21/23 at 11:37 am to Jon Ham
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Bama and Miller have had plenty of time to answer the question. What’s the delay?
They have. He's playing. And the police have long ago known what Brandon knows.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 11:37 am to Jon Ham
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Not really. Juries make conclusions and findings of fact every day with incomplete information. It’s only in a criminal trial setting where a refusal to answer can’t and shouldn’t be used against you.
Oh I'm not saying that a person can't draw stupid conclusions from incomplete information. I'm only saying it's a sign of their lack of intellect and/or patience, at least in this case.
This post was edited on 3/21/23 at 11:39 am
Posted on 3/21/23 at 11:41 am to biclops
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Oh I'm not saying that a person can't draw stupid conclusions from incomplete information.
Why is it stupid? Miller’s attorney released a well-crafted, pretty lengthy statement about that night which tried to paint as a good picture for Miller as possible, yet curiously failed to even touch on whether Miller read the text before delivering the gun.
When Bama’s AD was pressed on this question, he dodged it.
If the answer was a “good” answer for Miller and Bama, don’t you think they’d confirm that?
Posted on 3/21/23 at 11:46 am to bamameister
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Bama and Miller have had plenty of time to answer the question. What’s the delay?
They have.
Link?
Posted on 3/21/23 at 11:50 am to Jon Ham
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If the answer was a “good” answer for Miller and Bama, don’t you think they’d confirm that?
No I don't. I've seen way too many "rush to judgement" scenarios where exonerating info is withheld (for reasons I admittedly did not understand) to assume that just because info has not been released means that it doesn't exist.
Just like I've never said "Brian Kelley Killed a kid" or similar. Also don't think I ever said Auburn should be punished for Cam, although the bammer in me wished it to happen. However, I was grounded enough to separate what I wanted to happen from what I concluded should happen.
P.S. Not saying exonerating info was ever released regarding these cases, just that I never rushed to judgement on them.
This post was edited on 3/21/23 at 11:52 am
Posted on 3/21/23 at 11:57 am to biclops
What’s the delay?
Posted on 3/21/23 at 11:58 am to Jon Ham
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What’s the delay?
What's the hurry?
This post was edited on 3/21/23 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 3/21/23 at 12:04 pm to biclops
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What's the hurry?
Well you have your own football coach making statements that are critical, directly or indirectly, of Bama’s handling of the situation. You would think for public relations reasons alone they would disclose a critical piece of information that justifies their handling of the situation.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 12:06 pm to Jon Ham
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Since it is not a criminal matter, the University can investigate whether Miller read the text before delivering the gun
Multiple news outlets (ESPN, NYT, al.com, Bama alum Patch) have reviewed what is available and nobody has been able to demonstrate that Miller read the text and even if he did how are you going to prove he fully understood the context or that he had any clue what was happening or was about to go down?
Y'all are grasping at straws. Miller turned over his phone and the dash cam. Maybe there is some grand conspiracy in Tuscaloosa to suppress the smoking gun that implicates Miller but pretty damn difficult to prove that given what we currently know. Lots of speculation and conjecture because people are mad Miller is still playing.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 12:06 pm to Jon Ham
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Well you have your own football coach making statements that are critical, directly or indirectly, of Bama’s handling of the situation. You would think for public relations reasons alone they would disclose a critical piece of information that justifies their handling of the situation.
There's no point in doing PR stuff at bama. Everybody hates bama except our fans anyway.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 12:08 pm to BrerTiger
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nobody has been able to demonstrate that Miller read the text and even if he did how are you going to prove he fully understood the context or that he had any clue what was happening or was about to go down?
How about someone ask him the question: did you read the text and what did it mean to you?
Posted on 3/21/23 at 12:09 pm to Jon Ham
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How about someone ask him the question: did you read the text and what did it mean to you?
I would assume the police have done so, and that someone in the AD has done so, and that they came to a satisfactory conclusion in light of the answer and other facts of the case, as they know and understand them.
This post was edited on 3/21/23 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 3/21/23 at 12:15 pm to biclops
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I would assume the police have done so, and that someone in the AD has done so, and that they came to a satisfactory conclusion in light of the answer and other facts of the case
You would think if the answer was a good one, Bama’s AD wouldn’t be dodging the questions on it.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 12:18 pm to Jon Ham
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How about someone ask him the question: did you read the text and what did it mean to you?
First off, it's a bit laughable that any of y'all would actually be satisfied with any internal probe that Bama does.
Secondly, Miller is just going to let his lawyer do the talking and he's already cooperated and turned over ample evidence that aligns with his story of events (as far as we know).
As far as I know, the university has been fully engaged with law enforcement the entire time learning what they can about what happened.
But I don't think any of y'all would be satisfied with any investigation of Miller's involvement unless it was an independent body from outside of Alabama (FBI? NCAA?).
Posted on 3/21/23 at 12:18 pm to Jon Ham
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You would think if the answer was a good one, Bama’s AD wouldn’t be dodging the questions on it.
No I really don't make that assumption. My working hypothesis is that something about that question, or a thruthful answer to it, pertains to the investigation into Miles, and so the AD has been advised by their attorneys not to comment on it. No idea how realistic of an assumption that is though. Maybe somebody with legal expertise can fill me in?
Or it could just be a "we don't wanna flesh this whole thing out in public. So we're gonna minimize how much we answer"
I don't really know, and that's kind of the point I was making earlier - neither do you.
This post was edited on 3/21/23 at 12:24 pm
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