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re: Ryan Day still whining over "non-targeting" aka “Displaced Buckeye Sore Butthole thread”
Posted on 2/3/23 at 12:04 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 2/3/23 at 12:04 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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You're full of shite.
My man, there is literally a 5 page thread on yall's 247 board that was started by a staff member titled "Steve Says: Lack of transparency on targeting call brings credibility of national title into question"
It is truly pathetic yet still highly comical at this point.
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 12:05 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:OK? There's always some level of subjectivity in refereeing sports when humans are involved, so it's about comparing what actually happened to the rules/standard to judge the truth of the matter as best as possible.
That hasn't happened, because there's been a refusal to accept the subjectiveness of the call.
Admittedly, I haven't read every post of yours in this thread. Did you provide your argument for why you think the call of targeting was the wrong one (that it should have been a targeting penalty)? I'm curious what your positive case is.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 12:09 pm to Marty Dawg
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coach and 98% of your fan base
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5 page thread
Like I said...
Posted on 2/3/23 at 12:10 pm to FooManChoo
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There's always some level of subjectivity in refereeing sports when humans are involved
I'm not the one who needs to hear this.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 12:10 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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I wouldn't have had the opportunity without three different Georgia fans starting them.
And yet, instead of skipping over them and not worrying about them you decided to go in and argue. If that's not insecurity I don't know what is.
quote:Back to back heroes.
You're the real heroes.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 12:13 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Well, we scored 38 points with Marv Jr. and 3 points without him.
Your defense couldn't get it done down the stretch. Period.
And before you go "uGa's D gAvE uP 41!!!!eleventy!!", they got the stop in the final drive when it mattered for the kick distance to be a factor.
Homeboy getting a foot full of turf before even touching the ball didn't help his cause.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 12:14 pm to DawgsLife
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And yet, instead of skipping over them
Why would I skip over Ohio State threads?
If it had been a Georgia thread, I'd have went right over it as usual. That's the difference here, sport.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 12:15 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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There's always some level of subjectivity in refereeing sports when humans are involved
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I'm not the one who needs to hear this.
Apparently you are since you cut his quote off at this and left off:so it's about comparing what actually happened to the rules/standard to judge the truth of the matter as best as possible.
So why don't you watch the links that have been provided and then argue. Instead you ignore the proof and continue to cry.
Insecurity? Seems like that is going to a different conferences message board and crying about a loss.
You scream we are insecure, but at least we are posting on our own conference board.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 12:15 pm to VoxDawg
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Your defense couldn't get it done down the stretch.
This wasn't limited to "down the stretch." Our defense was never going to win that game for us.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 12:16 pm to DawgsLife
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Apparently you are since you cut his quote off at this and left off:so it's about comparing what actually happened to the rules/standard to judge the truth of the matter as best as possible.
I'm not interested in arguing points I haven't made. I snipped the relevant portion. You have to do that with FooLaneCraig.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 12:16 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:He was personally responsible for 12 points (14, if you include the PATs). His last catch of the game was the TD catch at the beginning of the 2nd quarter. He had almost 2 full quarters of no measurable offensive productivity prior to leaving the game.
Well, we scored 38 points with Marv Jr. and 3 points without him.
It's fine and dandy to say "we scored 38 points with Marv Jr. and 3 points without him", but such a statement assumes that his being on the field was directly responsible for the 38 points, and his absence was directly responsible for the 3 points (the lack of additional points, more like). I'm not sure you can justify such an assertion because it basically amounts to an argument from silence due to his lack of quantifiable production after that last catch.
The two scores he had were from scrambles by Stroud which allowed MHJ to break off his routes. Those types of plays are hard for defensive players to cover, no matter who the receiver is, because of the inherent lack of predictability. It could be argued that those 14 points for MHJ were actually more of a testament to Stroud's ability to evade pressure and extend plays than MJH's unique impact on the game. Could any of the other receivers done the same thing? From looking at the stat sheet of the game, I'd say that's a firm "maybe" at least.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 12:16 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Why would I skip over Ohio State threads?
Because they don't stroke your ego and say "Ohio State is the bestest!"
Apparently if they don't do that you melt like an ice cream cone on a hot sidewalk in August.
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If it had been a Georgia thread, I'd have went right over it as usual. That's the difference here, sport.
Edit: Never mind. My comment was uncalled for.
This post was edited on 2/3/23 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 2/3/23 at 12:19 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Aren't you involved in a discussion about the legitimacy of the non-targeting call?
I'm not the one who needs to hear this.
If so, what's your positive case for your position? If you've provided it already, just let me know and I'll see if I can find it (so you don't have to re-make it).
Posted on 2/3/23 at 12:20 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Our defense was never going to win that game for us.
While we're making that list, don't leave off Ruggles.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 12:21 pm to FooManChoo
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If so, what's your positive case for your position?
The tOSU fan/HC argument FOR the targeting flag is the same as the arguments against the AR-15 - It looks scary and they don't understand it.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 12:21 pm to FooManChoo
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He was personally responsible for 12 points
So what. Losing him shifted our offense. Instead of covering Marv Jr. you're covering Egbuka. Instead of covering Egbuka, you're covering Fleming. And so on.
It's noted that you're still pretending that was no big deal.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 12:23 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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It's noted that you're still pretending that was no big deal.
In your opinion what was a bigger deal, MHJ's injury or the fact that we filmed all of your practices???
Posted on 2/3/23 at 12:24 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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So what. Losing him shifted our offense. Instead of covering Marv Jr. you're covering Egbuka. Instead of covering Egbuka, you're covering Fleming. And so on.
This is all true, but if Nolan Smith hadn't been injured Harrison wouldn't have been as effective.
See how this logic works? I mean it works both ways.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 12:25 pm to VoxDawg
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While we're making that list, don't leave off Ruggles.
Before the potential game winner l, he was 2/2 including from 48 yards and had missed all of three kicks as a Buckeye.
Ruggles very well could have won the game for us.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 12:26 pm to FooManChoo
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Aren't you involved in a discussion about the legitimacy of the non-targeting call?
The discussion was about the subjective nature of the penalty and the varying perspectives.
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