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re: Reverend Rabbit: "There's a difference between making a mistake and cheating"

Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:22 am to
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
17939 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:22 am to
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recruits free cars AND free weed?

Well while the 4 year investigation didn't prove any pay for play, the main thing it did prove was we loaned cars out to 2 players, and yes, every college player smokes for free.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37310 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:23 am to
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How do you know momma lives in Oxford, stalker?


that's been stated on here at least 100 times i bet.


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I honestly think he's just a naive idiot.


i'm not sure which i'd feel better about if i was a fan- shady or a fool?

This post was edited on 5/31/16 at 10:25 am
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4317 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:25 am to
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How do you know momma lives in Oxford, stalker?


Because I can fricking read. It's been everywhere. Here is a link though

Stalker and shite

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Once again, if we paid the Tunsil's boocoys of money, why do they need help with a light bill?


If they can afford to pick up and move on a whim from Lake City to Oxford, why do you need to help them with a light bill.

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. They didn't move to Oxford until Tunsil step brother joined the team (actual reason why we got him) and with both kids being in Oxford, no reason to be in LC.


According to link above, they moved to Oxford in Spring of 2014.
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
25134 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:27 am to
The other schools are offering them stability, championships, and NFL potential based off its history not bank account.
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4317 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:27 am to
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So the stepdad was able to prove $800 but isn't able to prove 100k-200k?



IRS... $800 doesn't set off the radar, 100-200k does.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37428 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:28 am to
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Well while the 4 year investigation didn't prove any pay for play,
How would it unless one of the coaches volunteered it or one of the players? Now you have one that has volunteered (was coerced maybe - but still counts) that he got money.
Posted by Big Balls
Texas
Member since Nov 2014
846 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:32 am to
I'll give you that its possible no paid a large amount of money to any recruit or his family. I will say, and you seem pretty reasonable so you might agree, that IF someone offered a large amount of money, they might go further to try and hide it. Again, I'm not saying that this is even likely the case, I'm just arguing its possible.

On the other hand, you say all schools help families out with their bills. That's speculation. You are assuming that just like everyone is assuming that a large payment was made to buy a player.

And you argument at the end about why Ole Miss is getting torched in recruiting over the last three times. Well, that can be explained fairly simply. The benefits are the only thing even keeping you in it, because after all...you are Ole Miss.
Posted by Tdot_RiverDawg
Member since May 2015
1729 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:43 am to
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Is offering a player's coach a head job to get him cheating? It gives the school an edge? Does paying a kid not to visit another school cheating? Y'all can call us cheaters all you want for calling kids during dead periods, giving girlfriends and parents lodging and hamburgers, but no where in there is there giving cash to kids like the school you cheer for did.


Of course it is and we served our sentence. Redmond lost a year and a half of eligibility and we fired a coach, but the major difference for us is that it was one player and one sport. You have over 70 violations across three sports and 2 administrations.
Posted by hidolladawgs
Member since Sep 2009
394 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:45 am to
Quote: The only thing that bothers me is the accusation that we pay players large sums of money just to come to school here and that's why they chose ole miss over other schools


Nobody except Ole MISS fans are stupid enough to believe other wise.
Ole Miss has had a beautiful campus for at least 60 years and beautiful women have always gone there.
Why did it take a no name division 2 coach from Arkansas State to get top 10 recruiting classes?
Orgeron couldn't get top 10 recruiting classes and he's one of the best in the country.
It was bullshite, everyone knew it was bullshite, and now Ole Miss will suffer the consequences.
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
17939 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:45 am to
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The other schools are offering them stability, championships, and NFL potential based off its history not bank account.

OM put more guys in the first round than all the other West schools combined
OM has won more top 25 games in the past two years than anyone else outside of Bama and OSU
OM is the only school in the SEC who has the same HC, and Coordinators.

Yeah kids want to win, they want to play for the same coaches, and they want to make it to the league, so OM is a good place to go, but you're nuts if you think a kid who has zero ties to a program cares more about tradition or the size of a stadium than they do about cash.
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
17939 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:46 am to
How did you get Simmons, Peters, and Leo. I'll hang up and listen
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
17939 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:48 am to
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Of course it is and we served our sentence. Redmond lost a year and a half of eligibility and we fired a coach, but the major difference for us is that it was one player and one sport. You have over 70 violations across three sports and 2 administrations.

Do you really wAnt to talk about women's basketball and track? State has had several players go through the Saunders school, loaner cars instead of an actual car like y'all have Redmond and free meals and lodging for family's. Have you read the NOA? You think there's more stuff in it that says OM bought recruits then y'all actually getting caught buying a recruit? Of course you do
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28553 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:49 am to
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OM put more guys in the first round than all the other West schools combined


You could make an argument that their draft stock fell over their tenure at Ole Miss.
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
17939 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:52 am to
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How would it unless one of the coaches volunteered it or one of the players? Now you have one that has volunteered (was coerced maybe - but still counts) that he got money.

How about the same way they found out about $800. And before the whole money laundering for tax purposes gets put up again.. Y'all do know that the person receiving the money has to have some idea how it's getting laundered to receive it right? The person receiving the money is the NCAA's snitch. Proving $800 which I'm sure was given cash is way harder than the connecting the dots of a 100k paper trail. And like y'all said, how did the Tunsil's move to Oxford? Seems the step dad would know if it was through illegal funds
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:53 am to
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I still have no idea why any coach would tweet that, even if you believe you are running a clean program.



Because he's a stupid country bumpkin.

You know how all coaches usually are subconsciously aware what the boosters do but are purposely kept out of the loop? Well I think Freeze is dumb enough that he thought Jesus and his recruiting skills were what landed these kids.

This is in no way a defense of Freeze I promise you. Have you seen some of his calls on the field? He consistently makes the most boneheaded play calls in the league. I appreciate a lot of things he does, and I do think his act resonates well with a lot of kids, but I honestly think the dude is an idiot.
This post was edited on 5/31/16 at 10:54 am
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
17939 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:54 am to
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You could make an argument that their draft stock fell over their tenure at Ole Miss.

Tunsil, RN, and Treadwell were the first taken at their positions from the SEC as true juniors, you could make that argument but you'd be an idiot, especially if you compared other 5*s in that class from the SEC
Posted by hidolladawgs
Member since Sep 2009
394 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:54 am to
Quote: How did you get Simmons, Peters, and Leo. I'll hang up and listen

Maybe because we were #1 in the nation and had a 10 win regular season

Something Ole Miss can't do, even with all their cheating
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
77316 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:56 am to

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He identifies with being a beaver... Stop judging bigot!!


I don't care how he identifies. I don't want him whipping out his flat tail in the rabbit locker room.
Posted by DynastyDawg
Relf-Coast
Member since Jan 2013
10886 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:57 am to
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OM put more guys in the first round than all the other West schools combined
OM has won more top 25 games in the past two years than anyone else outside of Bama and OSU


All after the recruiting class in question. Nice try.

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OM is the only school in the SEC who has the same HC, and Coordinators.


Didn't the DC leave for some team in south Florida?
Posted by DynastyDawg
Relf-Coast
Member since Jan 2013
10886 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:58 am to
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How did you get Simmons, Peters, and Leo. I'll hang up and listen


You know getting in state kids do not raise the same questions that getting top 100 players out of state do. Don't be obtuse.
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