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Posted on 4/6/11 at 7:09 pm to
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/6/11 at 7:09 pm to
Pray tell us all what you mean by "code words". It sickens me that our society has descended to the point that you cannot hold an honest opinion without being branded a racist or some TRUE "code word".
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33587 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 10:39 pm to
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Pray tell us all what you mean by "code words". It sickens me that our society has descended to the point that you cannot hold an honest opinion without being branded a racist or some TRUE "code word".


You are even using code words from the 50's.:
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progressive white people.

code for white folks who except negroes as equals.
I haven't heard that since reading the Natchez Democrat back in the 60's. They were still lynching folks around there back then. LINK Sounds like something from To Kill a Mockingbird.

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You will NEVER be able to appease them until you all are picking cotton and they are riding horses and cracking whips.

You may not have the upbring, education or gumption to figure out this is severly racist but believe me, to most every person of any color, it is. No code here just an obvious sense of your loss of pride because of the negro.

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Even though slavery has been gone for a century and a half and Jim Crow died back in the 60's

Just plain stupidity here. Quite a few Civil Rights laws were passed in the 60's but if you think the negro has been on equal footing economicaly and many other ways with whites since then you must live in Vidor, TX or some other shithole town. Hell this kind of stuff is still going on: LINK

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There are those such as Jesse Jackson and his ilk that make a living off of inflaming racial issues and those that live on their every word and put it out there as the gospel.

Educated negroes don't hang on every word coming out of Jesse mouth but they do know in certain situations, there is a fire causing so much smoke.

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Giving in to pressure like this only causes more pressure.

That's right whip that boys arse for sitting in the front of the bus. Next thing you know they'll want to get jobs as bus drivers.

Sorry to have to explain in terms you are probably used to but otherwise you might not understand.

Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
101482 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 11:27 pm to
You can't argue logic with an idiot, our younger generation nowadays are taking steps to put our racial differences and tension behind us, it is something that needs to be forgotten. For the most part, I have noticed being in college that whites and blacks get along just fine. a normal black person is no different than a normal white person, we may have different cultures, but nobody is worse than the other. When I meet a black person for the first time, I treat him/her with the same respect I would anybody else, then make a judgement on them based on their personality, morals etc. just like i would anyone else. Where you see racial problems nowadays is your "thug" black people who are most likely poor and uneducated. These types pull the racial card out to try to receive a free handout from a white person who is better off financially. But these "thugs" are no different than your common white trash(who are also likely uneducated and therefore raised to be racist without knowing any better) who are in the same situation and looking for free handouts, only difference is the black ones have the advantage of using "they are being racist' to their advantage. Then you have extremist,like jesse jackson, who spew hate. These people are racists bigots, and are no different than the KKK people. There are racists and extremists on both sides, and always will be, but for normal, everyday person there are very few racial problems anymore like there was in the 60's. We have made good strides to get rid of that way of thinking, and need to continue to do so because you have to deal with people of every race in the real world everyday, might as well learn to accept them and their culture for who they are and get along with them.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26369 posts
Posted on 4/7/11 at 1:42 am to
Chinese 58,son,you have a LOT to learn. It is sad really to read your post.You make a lot of assumptions and read things into what I say that I did not.

Dr.King preached equality for all. I agree with his goal. People being what they are we never truly will reach that goal but it is a noble and worth while undertaking.

Now if THAT is racist just brand me one.

I am saying that ALL need to move on. Black White....all of us. Continually stirring the pot and agitating does nothing to accomplish anything useful.

Let me ask you 58,and I want an honest answer. Say you interview for a job. A black man does the same. He gets the job because the company supports affirmative action.

You won't feel discriminated against? Be honest.

In a world like I would advocate,the best man gets the job. Were it me,if the other man was more qualified,I have no problems with him at all.
No matter what the color of his skin.

THAT is the world Dr.King spoke of.
Posted by DCRebel
An office somewhere
Member since Aug 2009
17644 posts
Posted on 4/7/11 at 7:56 am to
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If you don't like what I have posted concerning your mascot,you WILL find out to your regret that I am right.And DC YOU are delusional if you think no one will care.


Nobody will care about what? I know people will be all bullshitty and panicky over it. I'm better than that though because I'm not a paranoid retard.

What will you be right about? That things will change? fricking badass prediction you've got there Nostradamus.
Posted by DCRebel
An office somewhere
Member since Aug 2009
17644 posts
Posted on 4/7/11 at 8:00 am to
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Was just trying to point out the use of code words.


Rampant on the Rant. There's a ton of coded language on here that's pretty disgusting.
Posted by DCRebel
An office somewhere
Member since Aug 2009
17644 posts
Posted on 4/7/11 at 8:12 am to
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deltaland


Use paragraphs. It'll make your posts much easier to read.

And you've got a point. A lot of the problems people have nowadays are seeded in economic woes. I honestly believe that a wealthy white person would much rather associate him/herself with a wealthy black person than a poor white person.

Living in DC, I see some of the extremes of both groups. Whereas Southeast DC is one of America's worst ghettos, the DC workforce and general DC area has plenty of very wealthy, powerful, successful black people. I'm talking about black doctors, lawyers, educators, lobbyists, and so forth. It's a very interesting dichotomy and has really challenged some of the "norms" I grew up with and accepted as a Mississippian.
Posted by RebFeBrees
Pensacola, FL
Member since Dec 2009
13855 posts
Posted on 4/7/11 at 8:52 am to
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grew up with and accepted as a Mississippian


where are you from DC?
Posted by DCRebel
An office somewhere
Member since Aug 2009
17644 posts
Posted on 4/7/11 at 11:21 am to
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where are you from DC?


Canton.

I've missed that place. I've been in Washington for several years now and, while I really like it, I definitely wanna end up back in the Deep South before it's all over and done with.
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
72550 posts
Posted on 4/7/11 at 11:26 am to
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I am saying that ALL need to move on.




Self-BOOM. That's exactly what you're doing. How can you honestly say that we aren't?



oh...wait....I know. You're a hypocrite. You want everyone to move on except for those that have the same beliefs as you. We ARE moving on. We're moving on from a troubled past towards a bright future.
Posted by PRK
Member since Sep 2009
9142 posts
Posted on 4/7/11 at 11:32 am to
A bright future of what? The athletics will always be mediocre at best, the academics will always blow, and the majority of your students still don't like black people.

Its true. They would never admit it in a survey...but this generation is not some trailblazing, forward thinking group.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
72550 posts
Posted on 4/7/11 at 11:33 am to
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A bright future of what? The athletics will always be mediocre at best, the academics will always blow, and the majority of your students still don't like black people.

Its true. They would never admit it in a survey...but this generation is not some trailblazing, forward thinking group.






wow.....you're an idiot.
Posted by PRK
Member since Sep 2009
9142 posts
Posted on 4/7/11 at 11:34 am to
Eloquent reply. Consider my points refuted.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 4/7/11 at 11:36 am to
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A bright future of what? The athletics will always be mediocre at best, the academics will always blow, and the majority of your students still don't like black people.

Its true. They would never admit it in a survey...but this generation is not some trailblazing, forward thinking group.



If there is one ranter I can always count on invading an Ole Miss thread, its certainly you.
Posted by PRK
Member since Sep 2009
9142 posts
Posted on 4/7/11 at 11:43 am to
It makes me feel all tingly on the inside.

Posted by DCRebel
An office somewhere
Member since Aug 2009
17644 posts
Posted on 4/7/11 at 12:02 pm to
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Eloquent reply. Consider my points refuted.


They are refuted. They're flat out fricking false.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26369 posts
Posted on 4/10/11 at 10:45 am to
So you've lived in Washington eh DC? Explains a LOT. Not answering tough questions not facing the tough issues and quoting bits and pieces of someones conversation to make it say what you want is typical Washington.

No wonder the rest of us are disgusted with the place.

You hypocrites live in a dream world. There will always be bias, humans being human. The key is to rise above it, including thinking your world view is superior to all others and no other should be tolerated.

Pay attention kiddies,class is in. Liberals think they are right about everything and any dissent is ridiculous and has to be crushed.

My view is you are entitled to your opinion right or wrong and we should agree to disagree and debate the issues with some semblance of civility.

NOT with code words such as "racist" every time someone is honest about issues of race.

There are bigots of every color and creed. There are those that pray at the altar of political corectness and there is no other god but that.

Until all are free to express an honest opinion without fear of reprisal, until we have an honest give and take on issues that divide us and we put the good of all above political agendas progress will not be made.

This post was edited on 4/10/11 at 10:50 am
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 4/10/11 at 10:49 am to
that's horrible ... Country Bear Jamboree? Ole Miss is a continuing joke. Tx for the laughs
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
72550 posts
Posted on 4/10/11 at 12:25 pm to
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Pay attention kiddies,class is in. Liberals think they are right about everything and any dissent is ridiculous and has to be crushed.





I voted and approve of the Bear and I'm a Conservative...........














.....and since we're throwing around childish, condescending names.........Gurlyman.
Posted by DCRebel
An office somewhere
Member since Aug 2009
17644 posts
Posted on 4/10/11 at 1:08 pm to
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Not answering tough questions not facing the tough issues


What tough questions have I not answered? What tough issues have I not faced? Examples, please.

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quoting bits and pieces of someones conversation to make it say what you want is typical Washington.


I'm sorry, did I take something you said out of context? Please explain where and when, and I'll correct my mistake.

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There will always be bias, humans being human.


Agreed.

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The key is to rise above it, including thinking your world view is superior to all others and no other should be tolerated.


Just because I disagree with out doesn't mean I don't tolerate you expressing yourself. Methinks you don't know what "tolerance" is. And just because I may think a position is inferior (Why else would we have these debates if there wasn't a mutual idea that our personal arguments are superior? That's how a debate works.) does not, in any form, mean that I think that the person with which I'm debating is inferior.

I may think my ideas are better, but I don't at all think that I'm somehow a better human being for it. I just see things differently and think that the ideas I have are the most applicable and well-reasoned. I trust that you feel the same way about your ideas. That's how ideas work.

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Liberals think they are right about everything and any dissent is ridiculous and has to be crushed.


What does this have to do with anything? Where does "liberalism" come in to play? Who in here gave a liberal opinion? And since when have liberals advocated the "crushing" of dissent? I guess I didn't realize that liberals were having conservatives jailed and sending their police forces to Tea Party to gun people down en masse. (Yes, that's how absurd you sound when you suggest that liberals "crush" your dissent. If "crushing dissent" is being a smartass over the internet, then, yeah, I guess liberals do that. Just don't bitch about being "crushed" to people around the world who actually ARE.)

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My view is you are entitled to your opinion right or wrong and we should agree to disagree and debate the issues with some semblance of civility.


You've just called me a coward and a hypocrite. You also said you were disgusted with the place I live. Yet I am the one who isn't being civil?

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NOT with code words such as "racist" every time someone is honest about issues of race.


Show me where this happened. Show me where someone was being "honest" about a race issue as opposed to being overtly racist and just hoping that people would either agree with their sentiment and not notice altogether.

Yes, there are many differences between races. There are also more than enough similarities amongst all of us as humans. I recognize that. I am very capable of having an intellectually honest discussion of race and race relations. I don't see where I've demonstrated to the contrary.

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Until all are free to express an honest opinion without fear of reprisal, until we have an honest give and take on issues that divide us and we put the good of all above political agendas progress will not be made.


Once again, what "reprisal?" Are people who express your views being jailed? Blackballed out of jobs or political influence? Deported? Executed?

You're not some poor, downtrodden freedom fighter. You're an outmoded, narrow-minded crank who doesn't like some smartass disagreeing with him over an anonymous SEC Football forum. Cut the "woe is me" bullshite.
This post was edited on 4/10/11 at 1:10 pm
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