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re: Question for Mizzou and Texas A&M

Posted on 8/27/12 at 6:11 pm to
Posted by Number1Gump
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
1371 posts
Posted on 8/27/12 at 6:11 pm to
DropKick70

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Ever consider that it's your school that has the problem, not the competition? just curious.


+1
This post was edited on 8/27/12 at 6:12 pm
Posted by kilo
Suck Our Yankee
Member since Oct 2011
28524 posts
Posted on 8/27/12 at 6:12 pm to
It sure is no Big Ten, but for our fallback option for a conference move it will have to do for now.

Posted by DropKick70
South Beach
Member since Jul 2011
1043 posts
Posted on 8/27/12 at 6:13 pm to
I personally have no trouble at all with any competition. Let's play ball!
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
8000 posts
Posted on 8/27/12 at 6:17 pm to
Nobody here gets any sort of enjoyment from watching rivals fall?

C'mon now.
Posted by Darth Slive
New Braunfels, Texas
Member since Jul 2012
499 posts
Posted on 8/27/12 at 6:21 pm to
Always had much respect for SEC. Linked to Arkansas, LSU and Bama through a rather strange history.

Loved the football, fans, stadiums and campuses. Damn glad to be here!
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88679 posts
Posted on 8/27/12 at 6:24 pm to
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not rocket science. If LSU wasn't ranked #1 last year when they beat Bama do you think Bama would have had the respect to still be in contention for the NC at the end of the year? NO!!


If LSU didn't have as much recruiting success, they wouldn't have beat you in the first place. You wouldn't have had to wait and hope and wish that other teams in the country would lose and you backdoor your way into the title. You would've beat them in November, won the west, and gone to the title. So you essentially would've gotten an SEC title in addition to the natty.
Posted by Number1Gump
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
1371 posts
Posted on 8/27/12 at 6:27 pm to
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Nobody here gets any sort of enjoyment from watching rivals fall? C'mon now.


Don't get me wrong...I love watching AU and TN lose to other SEC teams but I will pull for them in OOC games because I want the SEC to look strong. Now if they lose I'm not necessarily gonna slit my wrist or anything. If nothing else i want them to feel good so we can be the ones to break there spirits when we play them. Don't steal our joy!

Even when Auburn play Oregon in the 2010 BCS game part of me wanted them to win and part of me wanted them to lose. It's a strange feeling thats hard to explain. And for TN...I'm actually starting to feel sorry for them. I still hate'em but the 3rd saturday in october was much more exciting when they were good.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88679 posts
Posted on 8/27/12 at 6:28 pm to
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Nobody here gets any sort of enjoyment from watching rivals fall?


Of course not, they wish all their opponents could go undefeated except for their game. The season is one big happy singalong that unfortunately some teams will have to lose.

Bunch of frickin pussies in here. It's football, not a damn food drive. I want every one of our rivals to lose every game they play.
Posted by DropKick70
South Beach
Member since Jul 2011
1043 posts
Posted on 8/27/12 at 6:30 pm to
It's just that while surfing the ' World Wide Web ' it seems that a lot of Georgia fans seem to go all full throttle
PMS at the drop of a hat and I never could understand why. WG Dawg has given me an explanation.

It must be stressful as hell to be completely surrounded by your enemies and have 5 star recruits right at your fingertips going elsewhere........... well that's terrible. I will try to be sensitive to WG Dawg and other like-minded fans in the future.
Posted by Number1Gump
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
1371 posts
Posted on 8/27/12 at 6:32 pm to
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If LSU didn't have as much recruiting success, they wouldn't have beat you in the first place. You wouldn't have had to wait and hope and wish that other teams in the country would lose and you backdoor your way into the title. You would've beat them in November, won the west, and gone to the title. So you essentially would've gotten an SEC title in addition to the natty.



When they beat us in november they were ranked #1 and we were #2. After the loss we dropped to #3...if the were ranked #13 when they beat us there is no way we would have been in contention at the end of the year to play for it all. The fall would have been to big to overcome. Just ask Oklahoma, Stanford, or Oklahoma State.
Posted by DropKick70
South Beach
Member since Jul 2011
1043 posts
Posted on 8/27/12 at 6:33 pm to
It's strange. People have to live in the state a lifetime and have it it go back generations to understand.

I could care less what anyone outside the rivalry thinks one way or the other, just as I could care less what anyone outside the SEC thinks about the conference.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88679 posts
Posted on 8/27/12 at 6:34 pm to
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it seems that a lot of Georgia fans seem to go all full throttle
PMS at the drop of a hat


How do you figure? Nobody's PMSing, I'm just having to explain my position to the thread over and over again. I don't have any illusions of grandeur about our program, I know what we are and where we stand.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88679 posts
Posted on 8/27/12 at 6:36 pm to
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if the were ranked #13 when they beat us


Did you just skim over my post or actually read it? If they were 13th, odds are pretty good you wouldn't have lost in the first place. You would've finished the regular season 12-0 and undoubtedly in the top 2. An SECCG win would've only cemented that.

And then you wouldn't have had to have OSU lose to get into the title, you would've gotten in on your own. AND you would've added another SEC championship.
This post was edited on 8/27/12 at 6:37 pm
Posted by DropKick70
South Beach
Member since Jul 2011
1043 posts
Posted on 8/27/12 at 6:38 pm to
Then why are you blaming the teams around you as opposed to holding your coaching staff responsible?
Posted by Palooza11
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
2561 posts
Posted on 8/27/12 at 6:43 pm to
Mad respect for the SEC before joining the conference. I've always enjoyed watching the games and been intrigued by the league of titans and champions. Always thought we would be a great addition and felt we didn't belong in the Big 12. Playing Kansas State, Iowa State? What the frick? The size of the venues and the fan devotion to their teams is obviously way better in the SEC. Lots of tradition and people that are just really passionate about their team and their school. Lots of pride and as an Aggie I love that. I felt that the Big 12 was so "blah". SEC is king.

Now, that being said the only time I would root for the SEC is during bowl games. However, that is only for certain teams. I'd root for everyone in the East but no one in the West.
This post was edited on 8/27/12 at 6:44 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88679 posts
Posted on 8/27/12 at 6:44 pm to


I'm only gonna say it one more time, hopefully your reading comprehension will kick in for it.

First of all, as to our coaching staff, I have said many many times that the problems with UGA in recent years is related to coaching. Nobody is denying that, and it actually doesn't even have an relevance to this thread at all.

As to "blaming" other teams..blame them for what? It is common sense that if you have 10 guys that 2 programs are after, and Program A gets 7 of them and Program B gets 3, Program A is gonna get a leg up. Can you agree with that? So then those 7 guys are gonna help improve Team A's record and chances at success, which will in turn bring more high profile players to Team A. It's not that Team B sucks, but some of those kids could have been a key piece on the team when in reality they are now playing elsewhere.

On that note, the better Program A plays, against OOC teams, against SEC teams, in bowl games, BCS bowls, the titles they win, etc...it gets much easier to sway those high profile recruits. Again, Program B isn't necessarily doing anything wrong, they just don't have the same ammo in a recruit's living room that Team A does.

Which is the whole point I"m trying to make. Just 1 or 2 guys can make a HUGE difference in a program (cam, vince young, tebow, mo clarett, etc) and if your rivals are doing excellent it just makes it that much easier to miss out on those guys. Which is why I pull for our major rivals to lose, and I would do so whether we were awful, mediocre, decent, pretty good, or elite. The basic premise still stands.

It's really not hard to understand. And that's the last I'll post on this subject.
This post was edited on 8/27/12 at 6:46 pm
Posted by Number1Gump
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
1371 posts
Posted on 8/27/12 at 6:46 pm to
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Of course not, they wish all their opponents could go undefeated except for their game. The season is one big happy singalong that unfortunately some teams will have to lose. Bunch of frickin pussies in here. It's football, not a damn food drive. I want every one of our rivals to lose every game they play.



WG_Gawg....imagine the entire conference being non-ranked or let's say 30+. UGA would not have much chance to move up the rankings except for the few non-conference games you played if the teams you played are ranked high. You would be sitting around beating a bunch of nobody's. The pussy is not the one who want's to play the best, but the one who runs from them.
This post was edited on 8/27/12 at 6:48 pm
Posted by DropKick70
South Beach
Member since Jul 2011
1043 posts
Posted on 8/27/12 at 6:56 pm to


the wall you're banging your head against is the one that is in your head.


quote:

Just 1 or 2 guys can make a HUGE difference in a program (cam, vince young, tebow, mo clarett, etc) and if your rivals are doing excellent it just makes it that much easier to miss out on those guys. Which is why I pull for our major rivals to lose, and I would do so whether we were awful, mediocre, decent, pretty good, or elite. The basic premise still stands.


What everyone's trying to explain to you is, ' yes... that is your problem! '. Your challenge is to realize that your coaching staff, football program, is not bringing these people in and it is their job to get it done, not for the rest of the conference to lose on your behalf.
Posted by DropKick70
South Beach
Member since Jul 2011
1043 posts
Posted on 8/27/12 at 7:01 pm to
quote:

Now, that being said the only time I would root for the SEC is during bowl games. However, that is only for certain teams. I'd root for everyone in the East but no one in the West.


unless of course Arkansas needs to beat Alabama in order for you to win the SEC West.
Posted by Number1Gump
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
1371 posts
Posted on 8/27/12 at 7:02 pm to
quote:

I'm only gonna say it one more time, hopefully your reading comprehension will kick in for it. First of all, as to our coaching staff, I have said many many times that the problems with UGA in recent years is related to coaching. Nobody is denying that, and it actually doesn't even have an relevance to this thread at all. As to "blaming" other teams..blame them for what? It is common sense that if you have 10 guys that 2 programs are after, and Program A gets 7 of them and Program B gets 3, Program A is gonna get a leg up. Can you agree with that? So then those 7 guys are gonna help improve Team A's record and chances at success, which will in turn bring more high profile players to Team A. It's not that Team B sucks, but some of those kids could have been a key piece on the team when in reality they are now playing elsewhere. On that note, the better Program A plays, against OOC teams, against SEC teams, in bowl games, BCS bowls, the titles they win, etc...it gets much easier to sway those high profile recruits. Again, Program B isn't necessarily doing anything wrong, they just don't have the same ammo in a recruit's living room that Team A does. Which is the whole point I"m trying to make. Just 1 or 2 guys can make a HUGE difference in a program (cam, vince young, tebow, mo clarett, etc) and if your rivals are doing excellent it just makes it that much easier to miss out on those guys. Which is why I pull for our major rivals to lose, and I would do so whether we were awful, mediocre, decent, pretty good, or elite. The basic premise still stands. It's really not hard to understand. And that's the last I'll post on this subject.



WG, Clearly you put too much emphasis on recruiting and stars rather than on your own coaching staff and program. UGA has had plenty enough talent to win it all within the past 10 years. You fell short!! Not because of Bama, or LSU, TN, or Auburn but because of your programs inadequacies. Don't blame others for your shortcomings....just win. In 2008 Bama lost to La Monroe and was ranked lower than UGA and many others in the SEC. You've had plenty of star players and continue to fail. Maybe it's time to look in the mirror and realize that UGA is the problem not others success.
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