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Posted on 1/24/14 at 5:04 pm to finestfirst79
Posted on 1/24/14 at 5:04 pm to finestfirst79
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I thought I did until he called attention to his "Member since" entry. And now I have no idea.
Wait a sec.....
The sips played Bama for the title in January 09, correct?
Mayhap that be our answer
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 5:07 pm to texashorn
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Don't be so daft.
There are LOTS of different schools represented on this website, which includes many boards. To think that only SEC people read this board is delusional.
You're of course correct about other school fans reading and also writing genuinely inquisitive posts without going out of their way to piss off the locals. I don't see any FSU or OSU or Baylor or TT or Oregon fans writing purposefully obnoxious posts, though. Texas fans seem to be unique in that regard (which lends credibility to the universal opinion of Texas fans). If Aggies do the same on shaggybevo I'd expect the same questions about their sanity there.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 5:09 pm to texashorn
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These factors were important to the committee when the decision was made
concerning the
penalties in this case. There were, however, other factors the committee considered in deciding
upon the penalties that it considered appropriate. These included the repeated infraction cases
involving the major violation of NCAA rules by t
he university over a relatively short period of
time; the fact that the summer jobs program was involved in the 1988 infraction case and again
in the present case; that a prominent alumnus, who was an officer of the alumni athletics
foundation, was the rep
resentative of the university's athletics interests involved in the violations,
and that a number of student
-
athletes were knowingly involved in the violations.
These factors led the committee to impose significant penalties upon the university, including
only the second probationary period as long as five years ever required by the Committee on
Infractions.
Bolded portion refers to football. 1988 probation was football. Summer jobs was football. Warren Gilbert was head of the 12th Man Foundation, the fundraising arm of the athletics department.
quote:
The Committee on Infractions determined that this case was a unique case in which the
institution should receive less than th
e full set of minimum penalties otherwise required by
NCAA legislation and that the repeat violator rule found in Bylaw 19.5.2.3 should not be
applied.
Translation: We could have given you the death penalty, but we didn't. Feel lucky.
By the way, the rumor was that UT athletics director DeLoss Dodds pulled strings with the committee to keep you from getting the death penalty, which would've hurt UT as well as A&M.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 5:10 pm to texashorn
I find the statement about violating A&M's "Code of Honor" to be somewhat Charles Allen Wright-esque, if not down-right Randolph Duke-esque.
The NCAA had ALL THESE REASONS to drop the death penalty bomb on A&M, but didn't. Why?
Because they would have been setting way more precedent than they already had been setting with this matter. AND they QUIT giving TV bans for ANY infractions, major or secondary, THAT SAME YEAR and have NEVER done it since, despite all the violations I have linked above, including USC, Miami, Ohio State, Penn State, Oklahoma, and the list goes ON AND ON!!!
In sum, A&M football was the FIRST AND ONLY institution to get a major infraction designation for a secondary infraction in part due to the infractions of another sport.
The NCAA had ALL THESE REASONS to drop the death penalty bomb on A&M, but didn't. Why?
Because they would have been setting way more precedent than they already had been setting with this matter. AND they QUIT giving TV bans for ANY infractions, major or secondary, THAT SAME YEAR and have NEVER done it since, despite all the violations I have linked above, including USC, Miami, Ohio State, Penn State, Oklahoma, and the list goes ON AND ON!!!
In sum, A&M football was the FIRST AND ONLY institution to get a major infraction designation for a secondary infraction in part due to the infractions of another sport.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 5:10 pm to finestfirst79
If you have a problem with the facts of my posts on this thread, I welcome further debate.
If anything, it is the deflection of aggies with namecalling and avoiding factual assertions that is obnoxious.
If anything, it is the deflection of aggies with namecalling and avoiding factual assertions that is obnoxious.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 5:11 pm to texashorn
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We could have given you the death penalty, but we didn't. Feel lucky.
Oh THANK YA, massa!
Jesus if there was ever an illustration of the attitude that drove us to part ways with y'all, that's it right there
Posted on 1/24/14 at 5:12 pm to KaiserSoze99
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In sum, A&M football was the FIRST AND ONLY institution to get a major infraction designation for a secondary infraction in part due to the infractions of another sport.
The facts of your assertion are wrong. Repeated football violations following the 1988 probation, which were proven in the report from 1990 onward in football, were relevant to the punishment. Basketball aggravated it.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 5:12 pm to texashorn
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If anything, it is the deflection of aggies with namecalling
Please. You have been getting your clock cleaned in this thread.
And doing your share of namecalling too. Come now, don't be obtuse
ETA: although if I was running with weak sauce like "dunderheads," I wouldn't care to own that shite either
This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 1/24/14 at 5:13 pm to texashorn
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..it is the deflection of aggies with namecalling and avoiding factual assertions that is obnoxious.
1, 2, frick tu.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 5:14 pm to texashorn
quote:
The Committee on Infractions determined that this case was a unique case in which the
institution should receive less than th
e full set of minimum penalties otherwise required by
NCAA legislation and that the repeat violator rule found in Bylaw 19.5.2.3 should not be
applied.
Translation: We could have given you the death penalty, but we didn't. Feel lucky.
...and they DIDN'T BECAUSE....
quote:
By the way, the rumor was that UT athletics director DeLoss Dodds pulled strings with the committee to keep you from getting the death penalty, which would've hurt UT as well as A&M.
The defense rests, your honor.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 5:14 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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You have been getting your clock cleaned in this thread.
You must live in an alternative universe.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 5:15 pm to texashorn
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In sum, A&M football was the FIRST AND ONLY institution to get a major infraction designation for a secondary infraction in part due to the infractions of another sport.
quote:
Basketball aggravated it.
That's what I said.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 5:16 pm to KaiserSoze99
NO, you said that football was penalized because of repeated violations in basketball ONLY.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 5:17 pm to texashorn
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NO, you said that football was penalized because of repeated violations in basketball ONLY.
That is exactly the OPPOSITE of what I said:
quote:
In sum, A&M football was the FIRST AND ONLY institution to get a major infraction designation for a secondary infraction in part due to the infractions of another sport.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 5:17 pm to TXTIGER2
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A&M will do anything and everything to feel better about themselves being the outright, most laughed about establishment in the nation.
If more people posted like you, I'd enjoy this board a lot more. Upvoted.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 5:18 pm to texashorn
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You must live in an alternative universe.
I must be because halfway intelligent people in your situation would have bowed out long ago. Yet you keep coming back for more punishment.
Your density is enjoyable. Wish I could stay and watch more carnage (thought this would be over before I finished working out), but I gotta take the wifey to dinner.
Enjoy....whatever you want to call the misguided madness that is your presence here
Posted on 1/24/14 at 5:19 pm to KaiserSoze99
Well, that is true. You did not say basketball only.
So what if you are the only institution that got in trouble because of repeated violations in football and basketball? You were a rogue program, top to bottom.
So what if you are the only institution that got in trouble because of repeated violations in football and basketball? You were a rogue program, top to bottom.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 5:20 pm to texashorn
Even taking basketball out of the equation, you were still subject to the death penalty for football violations, and received tougher penalties because of repeated football violations.
That is irrefutable, no matter your obfuscation of the issues.
That is irrefutable, no matter your obfuscation of the issues.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 5:21 pm to Wishnitwas1998
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Come on, we all know WHY he's here....
He is like most horns and is obsessed with A&M and is pissed and he wants you all to know it?
Posted on 1/24/14 at 5:25 pm to texashorn
I'm gonna go make an account on a Big 10 forum and talk shite about Iowa. That makes sense right?
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