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re: Only 1 SEC player in Top 10 for 2012 Draft.... SEC is down

Posted on 5/5/11 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 1:08 pm to
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The rule change actually makes it safer for returners.



And it lessens their impact on the game. Which is why it hurts their draft stock.

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So he is forever to be 170 pounds?

I'm not even gonna dignify the rest...


It's not like he's in high school any more. He's small. Can you imagine him locking up with Julio Jones? It would be abuse.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35671 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 1:16 pm to
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And it lessens their impact on the game. Which is why it hurts their draft stock.


The best will still produce, making them more valuable.

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It's not like he's in high school any more. He's small. Can you imagine him locking up with Julio Jones? It would be abuse.


Again, 170 isn't his end weight, he can add 10-15 pounds and be the same weight, but an inch taller than Asante Samuel.

He led the NCAA in passes defensed with 23, he picked off Cam Newton, Andrew Luck, and Matt Barkley a combined 4 times last season, and was the best returner in the nation.

His weight being 170 or 180 isn't gonna impact him covering a WR...

Posted by claygast
Member since Mar 2011
828 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 1:37 pm to
2011*

It's okay though, you don't have to defend why this mock draft is worth a shite or justify how "SEC is down" is a legitimate conclusion.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 1:42 pm to
2011 makes it even worse, you are associated with ATPB... you might as well log off now and save yourself. Plus being an Auburn fan you are already below me.
Posted by claygast
Member since Mar 2011
828 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 1:43 pm to
Uh oh, big swinging dick with 40k posts is going to e-bully me off of a college football messageboard.

Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 1:44 pm to
Oh no someone is bringing up the post count, that is the first sign you are already intimidated.
Posted by WelcomeToDeathValley
1st & 1st
Member since Aug 2006
16947 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 1:46 pm to
POST COUNT BOOM!

Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 1:48 pm to
I know right... he has already lost, of course he is an Auburn fan and will dig his feet into the dirt and fight and fight, yet only making a fool of himself
Posted by Analyze That
ThereAndBackAgain
Member since Nov 2009
19867 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 1:50 pm to
Cleveland Browns2010 record: 5-11 | Needs: ROT, OLB, CB, OG, WR
Andrew Luck*, QB, StanfordLuck is a once-in-a-decade kind of talent with all the tools to be an elite NFL quarterback. He returned to Stanford for the 2011 season even though coach Jim Harbaugh moved to the NFL, and the team with the No. 1 overall pick in 2012 should trade its existing quarterback to draft Luck. He's that good. If not, the pick will be up for public auction.

Carolina Panthers2010 Record: 2-14 | Needs: WR, DE, OLB, CB, RB
Quinton Coples, DE, North CarolinaCoples is a 6-foot-6, 255-pound end with great versatility. He explodes off the ball, is powerful and quick and was all over the field in 2010.



Washington Redskins2010 record: 6-10 | Needs: QB, DL, ILB, WR, CB
Matt Barkley*, QB, USCBarkley came into his own in 2010, showing natural anticipation and more consistency. He also emerged as a strong leader.


Buffalo Bills2010 record: 4-12 | Needs: QB, OLB, TE, LOT, S
Matt Kalil*, OT, USCKalil is a 6-5, 295-pounder with great feet, and he is so strong at left tackle that 2011 first-round pick Tyron Smith stayed on the right side while at USC. Kalil's brother, Ryan Kalil, is the starting center for the Carolina Panthers.


Denver Broncos2010 record: 4-12 | Needs: DT, MLB, QB, RB, CB
Jerel Worthy*, DT, Michigan StateAt 6-3 and 305 pounds, Worthy is an active tackle who can be disruptive in the backfield and flashes the ability to get to the quarterback.


Arizona Cardinals2010 record: 5-11 | Needs: QB, OT/G, OLB, S, TE
Donte Paige-Moss*, DE, North CarolinaAnother Tar Heels defensive lineman with NFL potential, Paige-Moss has the build and athleticism to play right defensive end in a 4-3 scheme or outside linebacker in a 3-4 like Arizona's.

Seattle Seahawks2010 record: 7-9 | Needs: NT, CB, WR, RB, S
Alshon Jeffery*, WR, South CarolinaI'll be interested to see how Jeffery runs and to study more tape on his route-running, but he passes the eyeball test with flying colors and has delivered clutch performances in big games during his short career.

Tennessee Titans2010 record: 6-10 | Needs: OG, CB, DT, ILB, DE
Jayron Hosley*, CB, Virginia TechHosley is an underrated cover corner with good ball skills.

Oakland Raiders2010 record: 8-8 | FS, QB, TE, WR, OT
Jonathan Martin*, OT, StanfordMartin is technically sound, and at 6-6 and 305 pounds, he can continue to improve his feet and strength. He is a two-year starter entering his junior season.

Cincinnati Bengals2010 record: 4-12 | Needs: CB, DT, RB, SS, PK
Janoris Jenkins, CB, FloridaJenkins' status is unknown after he was dismissed by Florida in late April following a second arrest on a charge of marijuana possession in a three-month span. He could elect for the 2011 supplemental draft, but at this point, he remains one of the top 2012 corner prospects. Watch his handling of 2010 first-round pick A.J. Green to see just how good Jenkins is.

San Francisco 49ers2010 record: 6-10 | Needs: DT, CB, DE, QB, PK
Dre Kirkpatrick*, CB, Alabama Kirkpatrick is yet another Nick Saban-coached defensive back on his way to the NFL. He needs to fill out his long frame but has the ability to become an effective press-man corner at the next level.

St. Louis Rams2010 record: 7-9 | Needs: OLB, DT, RB, OG, FS
Trent Richardson*, RB, Alabama Richardson has a rare combination of size, power and burst, and he piled up more than 1,800 yards of total offense the past two seasons while sharing time with 2011 first-round pick Mark Ingram.

Minnesota Vikings2010 record: 6-10 | FS, OT, DT, OLB, WR
Marcus Forston*, DT, Miami The Vikings weren't able to address their need for a full-time starter at defensive tackle in the 2011 draft, and heading into his junior season, the 6-3, 310-pound Forston has the size and strength to become an impact every-down starter in the NFL.

Jacksonville Jaguars2010 record: 8-8 | DE, OLB, MLB, FS, CB
Luke Kuechly*, LB, Boston CollegeKuechly is a high-motor, hardworking linebacker with good football tools and even better mental makeup. His instincts and tackling skills helped him pile up a ridiculous 183 total tackles in 2010.

Miami Dolphins2010 record: 7-9 | QB, FS, ILB, TE, DE
Landry Jones*, QB, OklahomaIt will be interesting to see how Chad Henne does behind an upgraded offensive line, and if he is unable to get the job done, Miami will be one of the quarterback-hungry teams entering the 2012 draft. We still need to study more film on Jones. Although he continues to improve and has prototypical size and the arm strength to make all the throws, to work his way up to this point, he needs to become more consistent in terms of footwork, accuracy and decision-making in 2011.

Detroit Lions2010 record: 6-10 | CB, WLB, SLB, OT, DE
Stephon Gilmore*, CB, South CarolinaDepending on what the Lions do in free agency, corner still could be a need in next year's draft. Gilmore is a smooth, fluid athlete with good size and a chance to become one of the elite cover corners in the nation next season with better technique and recognition skills.

Kansas City Chiefs2010 record: 10-6 | ROT, ILB, TE, NT, LS
Manti Te'o, LB, Notre DameTe'o has developed into a solid player and should emerge as one of the elite linebackers in the nation in 2011. He continues to improve his recognition skills and has the quickness and power you look for in a starting inside linebacker in the NFL.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers2010 record: 10-6 | Needs: CB, OLB, OT, RB, OG
Zach Brown, LB, North CarolinaBrown is your prototypical weakside linebacker. He's slightly undersized with room to improve at the point of attack, but he is a smooth athlete who can flat-out fly all over the field.

Chicago Bears2010 record: 11-5 | Needs: WR, OLB, CB, ILB, C
Justin Blackmon*, WR, Oklahoma StateThe Bears remain in the market for a big wideout to complement their speedsters on the perimeter, Johnny Knox and Devin Hester. Anyone who saw Blackmon use his size and strength against Prince Amukamara last season knows he would be the right man for the job.

Houston Texans2010 record: 6-10 | Needs: FS, NT, OG/C, OT, ILB
Ray-Ray Armstrong*, S, MiamiAfter loading up the defensive front this year, the Texans could be in the market for a playmaker in the secondary next year. Armstrong has steadily improved in the past two years and has been the No. 1 ball hawk for the Hurricanes. He would be a perfect fit for Wade Phillips' scheme, which puts as much pressure on its safeties as it does the corners in zone looks.

Dallas Cowboys2010 record: 6-10 | DE, S, CB, ILB, C
Cliff Harris*, CB, OregonHarris has a lot of work to do as a corner, but few individuals in college football show more explosiveness and big-play ability than he does. Harris is also one of the most dangerous return men in the nation.

San Diego Chargers2010 record: 6-10 | Needs: OLB, ROT, NT, ILB, C
Vontaze Burfict*, LB, Arizona StateBurfict is a work in progress and needs more game experience and coaching, but he is a physical specimen who can play sideline-to-sideline and blow plays up like no other linebacker in the country.

New York Giants2010 record: 10-6 | Needs: OLB, MLB, LOG/C, OT, TE
Keenan Robinson, LB, TexasRobinson is maybe the most underrated defensive prospect in the nation. He constantly jumped out during film study on other players last year, doing a great job of getting off blocks and showing good closing burst in pursuit.

Posted by Analyze That
ThereAndBackAgain
Member since Nov 2009
19867 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 1:50 pm to
Philadelphia Eagles2010 record: 10-6 | Needs: CB, OLB, ROT, TE, DL
Travis Lewis, OLB, OklahomaLewis is a quicker-than-fast weakside linebacker and one of the most productive in the nation the past two years. I'll be interested to see after studying film how much of that is due to the scheme and how much is due to his tools, but he does appear to have the closing burst to contribute in the NFL.

New York Jets2010 record: 11-5 | OLB, OT/G, S, TE, WR
Brandon Jenkins*, DE, Florida StateJenkins is a throwback Florida State pass-rusher with the frame (6-3, 234) to fit nicely on the outside in a 3-4 scheme like New York's. His 13.5 sacks as a sophomore in 2010 were the most on a team that led nation with 48 sacks.

Cleveland Browns (from ATL)2010 record: 5-11 | Needs: ROT, OLB, OG, WR
Mike Adams, OT, Ohio StateAdams is 6-7 with a lean frame and needs to add bulk. Although he's not as athletic as 2010 first-rounder Nate Solder, he has similar potential to make a big move as a senior.

Baltimore Ravens2010 record: 12-4 | Needs: S, ILB, DE, OLB, RB
Robert Lester*, S, AlabamaThe 6-2, 215-pound Lester made big strides as a sophomore and has good straight-line speed to go with natural playmaking instincts, all of which could put him into the early rounds in 2012.

New England Patriots (from NOR)2010 record: 14-2 | Needs: OLB, DE, WR, FS, C
Andre Branch, DE, ClemsonBranch is a 4-3 end at Clemson, but at 6-4 and 255 pounds, he continued to jump out as we studied 2010 tape of former Tigers DE Da'Quan Bowers. Branch has the look of the kind of 3-4 outside linebacker the Patriots like.

Indanapolis Colts2010 record: 10-6 | Needs: WR, SS, CB, OLB, RB
Jeff Fuller, WR, Texas A&MFuller broke out as a playmaker in 2010 and should only get better in his second year with QB Ryan Tannehillin 2011. Fuller has the size (6-4, 215), ball skills and playmaking ability to transition nicely to the NFL.

Pittsburgh Steelers2010 record: 12-4 | Needs: NT, CB, WR, TE, OG
Kelechi Osemele, OL, Iowa StateA versatile prospect, Osemele (6-4, 325) starts at left tackle for Iowa State and is arguably the best overall player for the Cyclones. He could potentially play guard or right tackle in the NFL.

New England2010 record: 14-2 | Needs: OLB, DE, WR, FS, C
Jared Crick, DT, NebraskaCrick is a limited athlete but has the size, strength and toughness to become a starting 5-technique in a base 3-4 front.

Green Bay Packers2010 record: 10-6 | Needs: DE, OLB, OG, CB, RS
Chase Minnifield, CB, VirginiaMinnifield stepped up when 2010 draftee Ras-I Dowling missed significant time. Although Minnifield needs to add bulk, he shows the instincts and overall tools to become an NFL starter.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 1:54 pm to
You cluttered my thread and I was winning
Posted by Analyze That
ThereAndBackAgain
Member since Nov 2009
19867 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 1:56 pm to
You can quote me on this:

Tducky is always #winning
Posted by claygast
Member since Mar 2011
828 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 2:03 pm to
Haha, you are absolutely ridiculous and don't even seem to be aware of what it is you yourself are saying.

You win bro. Which way is the door?
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 2:05 pm to
Down the hall and to the left....
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you are absolutely ridiculous and don't even seem to be aware of what it is you yourself are saying.

I believe I am 100% aware of what I am saying, as I am actually typing this and I have not uttered a word.

There is no shame not being as good as myself, many have wanted to be like me and failed. So you are one of many. You may be better off on an Auburn website, you don't have thick enough skin for this board.
Posted by claygast
Member since Mar 2011
828 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 2:07 pm to
Please, have my wallet. I don't want any trouble now.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 2:08 pm to
Your an Auburn fan, I don't want your tip money. You work hard delivering those pizzas and the price of gas continues to rise.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19677 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 2:39 pm to
5. Seattle Seahawks: Matt Barkley, QB, USC


Surely not. Barkley has a girl's arm.
Posted by Analyze That
ThereAndBackAgain
Member since Nov 2009
19867 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 2:46 pm to
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Surely not. Barkley has a girl's arm.


Personally I think he's over hyped, but whatever some people thick he's still good
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