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re: OM player Charles Wiley arrested for domestic violence
Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:56 pm to Whereisomaha
Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:56 pm to Whereisomaha
If we kick him off now for domestic violence, wouldn't he fall under the SEC no transfer rule since this occurred after enrolling?
Either way, there should be no tolerance if the investigation finds anything. Glad we are proactively suspending him.
Either way, there should be no tolerance if the investigation finds anything. Glad we are proactively suspending him.
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 4:17 pm to Whereisomaha
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And the fact no coach has been fired is proof they did it legally, but he is a player in his 3rd year anyway. Once again, OM has not been accused of anything that links them to buying recruits, which is
Posted on 7/26/16 at 4:47 pm to DawgsLife
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No. I don't think so. Proof?
Im just using logic. If the NCAA could prove an OM coach paid a player then that coach would be fired to mitigate the punishment. Not only is he not fired, he's stealing the best player out of Starkville. Use your brain
Posted on 7/26/16 at 4:51 pm to Whereisomaha
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Im just using logic. If the NCAA could prove an OM coach paid a player then that coach would be fired to mitigate the punishment. Not only is he not fired, he's stealing the best player out of Starkville.
This isn't over yet, though, is it?
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Use your brain
Why? Ole Miss fans don't.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 4:51 pm to AshLSU
I'm shocked so many of you can't make sense of this. It's one thing to flame or have fun at OM expense. I can also understand how a fan of another school doesn't know the ins and outs of the investigation, but when it's spelled out for you like that, that not only is the coach in the messages not fired or suspended, but is on the recruiting trail while the program is under investigation, that that there doesn't tell you the NCAA has nothing when it comes to the Tunsil messages. Seriously, I'd love to hear your argument to that.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 4:54 pm to Big4Dawg
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Alright OM fans, let's hear his punishment.
Team vote.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 4:56 pm to Whereisomaha
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Seriously, I'd love to hear your argument to that.
Dude. It's not over yet. I mean, Ole Miss might think they are in the clear. I don't know. Check my history. I don't flame. But the NCAA has done nothing as of now to Ole Miss. Does that mean nothing is going to happen? Take a step back and take those red and gray sunglasses off.
Has Ole Miss done anything to anybody involved in this investigation?
As far as I know, they have not.
Take a good look at USC. Pete Carrol was running everything right up until the time he cut and ran. Then the hammer got lowered. Just because nobody has been canned yet doesn't mean anything.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 4:56 pm to DawgsLife
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This isn't over yet, though, is it?
That's correct. They are still investigating the the messages. But OM knows what they did. They know what the NCAA can prove, and just ignoring the rumors of this being behinds us blah blah blah, all I have to do is use common sense. The coach in question doesn't even coach anything. He's a 60+ year old man on his last stop for those "y'all afraid he's gonna spill the beans so you can't fire him"! crowd. If we can pay recruits why can't we pay off a man on his last job? Once again use common sense .
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 7/26/16 at 4:59 pm to DawgsLife
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Has Ole Miss done anything to anybody involved in this investigation?
As far as I know, they have not.
They self imposed 90% of the NOA allegations and sat their best player on a title contending team for 7 games. Freeze also goes on national television and tells everyone if he found out a coach paid a player that coach would be fired immediately. Him not doing so if he knows it's true or provable, which he would know, is career suicide which eliminates your Carrol comparison. Why would our AD and Freeze who both have long careers ahead of them in their early 40's risk all that to save a 60+ guy who isn't even an on the field coach? Common sense.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 7/26/16 at 5:06 pm to Rebman
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It's like asking Wile-E-Coyote for an unbiased opinion about the Road Runner.
Have a upvote for this sir
Posted on 7/26/16 at 5:07 pm to Whereisomaha
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But OM knows what they did. They know what the NCAA can prove, and just ignoring the rumors of this being behinds us blah blah blah, all I have to do is use common sense.
Ok. Lets use common sense. Ole Miss know what they did. Correct.
They know what the NCAA can prove.
No. They do not. Pete Carroll knew what he did, yet he lied to the NCAA. Why? because they have no idea what the NCAA can or cannot prove. Things are covered up and found out by the NCAA often. If the investigated party/school knew everything, why do they try to lie their way out of it?
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The coach in question doesn't even coach anything.
So? If he did something...or if anybody else did something within the program, the NCAA isn't going to care if he coaches or is the trainer or inflates the footballs with air.
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f we can pay recruits why can't we pay off a man on his last job? Once again use common sense .
Maybe because the NCAA is watching you like a hawk right now? Do you think it would be smart to keep paying people off while being actively investigated? YOU need to use common sense.
Now. I don't know what Ole Miss did or did not do. I don't know if they are going to get hammered or not by the NCAA. Nobody on this board does. But don't act like you are the voice of reason and common sense when you are not using common sense or reason.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 5:10 pm to Whereisomaha
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I'm shocked so many of you can't make sense of this. It's one thing to flame or have fun at OM expense. I can also understand how a fan of another school doesn't know the ins and outs of the investigation, but when it's spelled out for you like that, that not only is the coach in the messages not fired or suspended, but is on the recruiting trail while the program is under investigation, that that there doesn't tell you the NCAA has nothing when it comes to the Tunsil messages. Seriously, I'd love to hear your argument to that.
Ok, here it is. Let's say for one second that it is true that OM is paying players like everybody thinks they are. Let's say that you do fire the staff members responsible.
A:) that would be an admittance of guilt.
B:) what would then keep said staff members from really spilling the beans on what's going on?
C:) Would likely cause the transfer of many current players and would absolutely kill recruiting for next year.
The more likely scenario is (if OM is paying players like everybody thinks they are) wait and see just what the NCAA can prove. And that is where we sit with OM. It's going on. you know it, I know it, everybody knows it. The question remains, can the NCAA prove it? We will just have to wait and see.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 5:11 pm to Whereisomaha
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They self imposed 90% of the NOA allegations and sat their best player on a title contending team for 7 games.
Ok. You use some common sense, now. You suspended your star player for seven games....for what?
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Freeze also goes on national television and tells everyone if he found out a coach paid a player that coach would be fired immediately.
And Bill Clinton said "I did not have sex with that woman." I think that was provable, and he survived. He lied under oath and got away with it, so I don't think saying something on TV necessarily means he didn't lie.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 7/26/16 at 5:12 pm to AshLSU
Exactly. Now THIS is common sense.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 5:13 pm to Whereisomaha
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If we can pay recruits why can't we pay off a man on his last job? Once again use common sense .
Because what you are paying recruits is nothing compared to what you would have to pay a coach to take the fall for this.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 5:17 pm to AshLSU
Tunsil admitted on TV that he was paid by coaches and they have text messages.....but common sense tells this guy nobody did anything wrong. certainly not a coach. I mean, Didn't the coach say if a coach did anything wrong he would fire them? 
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 5:27 pm to DawgsLife
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No. They do not. Pete Carroll knew what he did, yet he lied to the NCAA. Why? because they have no idea what the NCAA can or cannot prove.
Let's be specific since we know what is specific being accused and what the specific defense is. Laremy said a coach paid him. OM invited the NCAA back to Oxford The very next day with the defense that the money came from the opportunity fund. If so there would be a very extensive paper trail of the opportunity fund showing how much the funds were wired the funds went and what the purpose of the funds were. That paper trail not existing shows that OM lied about how Laremy was paid by the coaches. go ahead and believe Hugh freeze would go on national television saying his coaches did nothing wrong if there was any way shape or form the NCAA can prove that they paid players, but I'm gonna continue to use common sense. If there was any chance he doesn't go on national tv and hang himself.
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So? If he did something...or if anybody else did something within the program, the NCAA isn't going to care if he coaches or is the trainer or inflates the footballs with air.
That wasn't my point. My point was he is someone easily replaced and silenced, thus the perfect fall guy if they actually did anything wrong, yet he's still out recruiting.
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Maybe because the NCAA is watching you like a hawk right now? Do you think it would be smart to keep paying people off while being actively investigated? YOU need to use common sense.
Yet you fricks believe the only way OM signed the '13 was by paying them and while under investigation, we bring in an even better class in '16.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 7/26/16 at 5:34 pm to DawgsLife
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sense, now. You suspended your star player for seven games....for what?
Come on guys. Do you have any idea how long it takes to copy and quote shite on a phone? Stop with stupid questions. We sat him for loaner cars. It's in the news. Explained and everything. The only way they were able to prove it was we forced Cannon Motors to turn over the info since the NCAA doesn't have subpoena power. I'm not even going to bother quoting the rest of that stupid shite. Really? That's your comparison?
Posted on 7/26/16 at 5:36 pm to DawgsLife
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Tunsil admitted on TV that he was paid by coaches and they have text messages.....but common sense tells this guy nobody did anything wrong. certainly not a coach. I mean, Didn't the coach say if a coach did anything wrong he would fire them?
It would be wrong to pay a player illegally. There is a fund for emergencies that can legally be used. If you don't know what you're talking about then stop wasting my time.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 7/26/16 at 5:39 pm to AshLSU
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what you are paying recruits is nothing compared to what you would have to pay a coach to take the fall for this.
Why? We paid a law firm 1.5 mil to have our back in this case and you don't think we can pay a 60+ year old players development coach who makes less than 150k a year to keep quiet? Bjork would never work again and Freeze wouldn't get paid a quarter of whAt he's making now if this shite were true. Not to mention the major sanctions which would be a huge loss of revenue and a black eye on the university. And he's the deal, he didn't have to go on national tv and aay that stuff. If it was any knowledge of guilt he would have just stuck with the "we would need to gather the facts and act upon the situation line" or just not go on tv defending himself and his coaches.
Stop being stupid.
What else y'all got? That one guy who said the investigation is still on going has the only point against anything I've said. Intelligent and knowledgeable arguments like that one please.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 5:47 pm
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