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re: Official: Arkansas Hires John L Smith As Interim Head Coach- $850,000/10 months

Posted on 4/23/12 at 10:34 pm to
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
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Posted on 4/23/12 at 10:34 pm to
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There you have it folks from one of your own.



The same guy disqualified himself by saying that Mike Anderson's hiring was somehow the downfall of Arkansas basketball.

Posted by FootballHog
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/23/12 at 10:38 pm to
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Basketball? Check

wut?
Posted by TheOtherWhiteMeat
Fort Smith
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/23/12 at 10:38 pm to
He's a Hogville tard, that's enough to disqualify him.
Posted by cityhog
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/23/12 at 10:45 pm to
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There you have it folks from one of your own.


The same guy disqualified himself by saying that Mike Anderson's hiring was somehow the downfall of Arkansas basketball.



What exactly did Anderson do to give you any confidence going forward.

And I post on several boards. Hville being one of them but the blind homerism over here makes me laugh.
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/23/12 at 10:48 pm to
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the blind homerism over here makes me laugh.


you and every other fanbase.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/23/12 at 10:56 pm to
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The man who untaught Tejada how to kick

Lol wut? At least present facts if you're going to talk shite.

Tejada's bad year was his SO year which was the year BEFORE John L came on staff. His first year under Smith his #'s were almost the exact same as his FR year when everyone thought he was legit.
Posted by cityhog
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/23/12 at 10:58 pm to
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Tejada's bad year was his SO year which was the year BEFORE John L came on staff. His first year under Smith his #'s were almost the exact same as his FR year when everyone thought he was legit.


cmon now. tejada got worse every year he was here. last two were the worst.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 4/23/12 at 11:00 pm to
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I would rather have a guy who's been around the block a few times rather than a first year head coach on the controls when Bama and LSU come to town.


Agreed. If you are going interim, at least go with a guy who has head coaching experience. If you only need a guy for one year, why choose a guy who will use the year to simply learn on the job? Unless Long pussed out and didn't try to hire Butch Davis, I think he made the right move here.

No one fricked Arkansas football except for Bobby Petrino. He is the man who has you in this mess, not Long.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
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Posted on 4/23/12 at 11:05 pm to
Dude he didn't even kick his senior year. Hocker was better than him the day he stepped on campus.

He could never kick it in the endzone on kickoffs and his fg% numbers by year were 74, 44, 73. Smith didn't do anything to screw him up. People just liked to pile on his junior year because of how bad his sophomore year was. It just carried over everytime he missed because it was the cool thing to do.
This post was edited on 4/23/12 at 11:07 pm
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 4/23/12 at 11:18 pm to
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cityhog


I agree with your opinion. I think you take the coordinator and promote him. However John L wasn't responsible for tejada and we both know it. Now if you want to talk about why our return teams consistently got owned when it counted then you have some pretty good ground. Mention the epic fail against Ohio state and the slapping himself in a press conference and basically we hired Curly of the 3 stooges as our head coach. However Tejada wasn't his fault.
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/23/12 at 11:20 pm to
oklahogjr

Is JLS coaching special teams again?
This post was edited on 4/23/12 at 11:21 pm
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 4/23/12 at 11:32 pm to
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Is JLS coaching special teams again?


hopefully the return teams. Those were spectacular under him. We did a lot of cool things on those. Also i'm willing to even say that the missed tackles on the coverage unit were partially willy's fault as his defenses never tackled well.


Here are my points and opinions on why i'm not very happy about the hire:

1. decent chance to give one of our coordinators an on the field interview to keep the system in place with say a paul petrino. Also gives us something to sell the recruits on.

2. There will be a drop off in operations with him at the helm. BP was a micro manager so if John L is really just coming in to oversea then who knows what little things BP used to do will be forgotten about. (interim coaching problem)

3.John L is known for actively fricking up his teams chances of winning on the field. Anyone thinking that he is really just going to be this admin that makes no in game decisions is just ignorant.

4. If we were just going to do this interim coach deal why not accept fulmer. removed enough from the situation that he wouldn't be installing schemes or anything. Would just basically do the figure head thing and we know he is capable of winning it all.


Posted by Arkansasrazorback
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 4/23/12 at 11:40 pm to
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He is THE HC. I'm assuming if he does a half decent job he will be signed to a long term extension.


No chance in hell. He's gone after this season.
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
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Posted on 4/23/12 at 11:41 pm to
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1. decent chance to give one of our coordinators an on the field interview to keep the system in place with say a paul petrino. Also gives us something to sell the recruits on.
Could Paul be OC and HC with never being an HC

2. There will be a drop off in operations with him at the helm. BP was a micro manager so if John L is really just coming in to oversea then who knows what little things BP used to do will be forgotten about. (interim coaching problem)
How much did BP allow his assistants really do on game day?

3.John L is known for actively fricking up his teams chances of winning on the field. Anyone thinking that he is really just going to be this admin that makes no in game decisions is just ignorant.
JLS clock management scares me, I'll give you that

4. If we were just going to do this interim coach deal why not accept fulmer. removed enough from the situation that he wouldn't be installing schemes or anything. Would just basically do the figure head thing and we know he is capable of winning it all.


Did Phat Phil contact JL or visa versa
This post was edited on 4/23/12 at 11:42 pm
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 4/23/12 at 11:41 pm to
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No chance in hell. He's gone after this season.


even more ammo to think it's a stupid hire.
Posted by Arkansasrazorback
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 4/23/12 at 11:45 pm to
Why? With John L. you don't have to worry about "Well what if the interim has a good season? There will be too much pressure to keep him." He's familiar with the staff and players. It will be good to have that continuity for this season and then go get who you really want in December.
Posted by NCrawler
Sherwood
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/23/12 at 11:47 pm to
We really, really need pondwater jacks take on this coaching hire...
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 4/23/12 at 11:48 pm to
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Could Paul be OC and HC with never being an HC


you'd then do the Co OC with Kleinakis or cincovich. See ohio state last year.

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How much did BP allow his assistants really do on game day?


That's going to be the big question. If he did a lot and the assistants let John L fill those rolls then we are up shite creek without a paddle.
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Did Phat Phil contact JL or visa versa


I have no idea. Everything said about him though made it seem like he'd be interested.
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 4/23/12 at 11:49 pm to
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With John L. you don't have to worry about "Well what if the interim has a good season? There will be too much pressure to keep him."


yes but it kills recruiting and I doubt the players and staff will respect him. He basically is a caretaker.

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He's familiar with the staff and players.


so is everyone else on the staff and at least those guys haven't tried and failed before.

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It will be good to have that continuity for this season


yeah I'm sure the players love the special teams coach. It makes infinitely more sense to have promoted Petrino, the DC, or another ASST.





Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 4/23/12 at 11:51 pm to
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yes but it kills recruiting

I think this would have been done better by promoting from within. With this hire he has basically told all the coaches you have this year and then I'm bringing in someone from the outside and you are all gone.
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