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Odd factoid from the 1930s

Posted on 12/16/18 at 10:16 am
Posted by Arksulli
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 10:16 am
While reading up on former Army head football coach "Biff" Jones I saw where the Army assigned him to LSU to be the new LSU head coach in 1932 (Jones was an officer in the Army at the time). He had a good three year run there, winning the conference once and compiling a 20-5-6 record before getting into an argument with Huey Long and resigning from the team.

From there the Army assigned him to Oklahoma to be the head football coach. From what I can gather this wasn't uncommon back then.

Talk about a different era of football. Can you imagine a military branch assigning a head football coach to someplace like Alabama today?
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 10:21 am to
Ah, this explains things... back then a lot of coaches were Army officers so Universities would ask the Army to assign those officers to their University to be a football coach. Which I imagine was quite a deal for them in that the Army was picking up the salary.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 10:27 am to
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Talk about a different era of football. Can you imagine a military branch assigning a head football coach to someplace like Alabama today?




I don't think this would even happened back in that time. I cannot speak to what kind of a connection the University of Alabama has to the military. But I am 100% sure it doesn't come close to LSU. I think 2 years of ROTC was required of all male student all the way up until 1970. Also, other than West Point no school produced as many officers in World War II than Louisiana State University did.
Posted by stat19
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 11:00 am to
quote:

I cannot speak to what kind of a connection the University of Alabama has to the military. But I am 100% sure it doesn't come close to LSU.




Engage your brain before typing next time genius.

Maybe, you can speak for the connection of UA since you're 100% certain...
Posted by WV Sage
Ripley, WV
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 11:20 am to
I believe you might find, that this happened in college Baseball as well...
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 11:20 am to
He isn’t wrong. LSU was a big military school back in the day.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 12:12 pm to
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He isn’t wrong.


Thanks, dude acted like I was insulting Alabama. What a insecure bunch.
Posted by Gray Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 12:19 pm to
For all of their athletic success, there is no more insecure fan base than Alabama's. They are like puppies that constantly need to be petted.
Posted by Jacknola
New Orleans
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 12:19 pm to
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He isn’t wrong. LSU was a big military school back in the day.

It was a military school...back before the War BTS...(but wasn’t when WWII started). But so was Alabama....Yankees burned the University because of that.

But this declaration is pure BS. All colleges, including private and religious, required 2 years of ROTC after WWII until about 1970. And LSU had no more officers than any other college in WWII. It was no more “military” than Florida, Georgia, etc. The guy just made up that shite about “being %100 positive” about something he was not positive about. I don’t know why it is LSU people hold the most fantastic ideas about themselves and their State’s place in history... it isn’t just about their football team...it is a personality disorder, grandiose belief..

My father left Alabama his freshman year went to OCS, was later KIA in Normandy. My mother told me the UA campus just emptied of men after Pearl Harbor.
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 12:23 pm
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

He isn’t wrong. LSU was a big military school back in the day.




The interesting things you learn online. I had no idea LSU was a major military school back then but it makes a lot of sense.
Posted by Gray Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 12:26 pm to
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Yankees burned the University because of that.


You have your wars mixed up I think. I don't recall the "Yankees" burning any college buildings immediately before, during, or after WWII

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My mother told me the UA campus just emptied of men after Pearl Harbor.


That was common across the country. For example George HW Bush entered the military instead of going to college after Pearl Harbor.
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 12:33 pm to
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During World War II, LSU was one of the top four schools producing officers for the U.S. Armed Forces. (The other schools were Texas A&M, West Point, and Annapolis). LSU had more than 5,000 former students serving as officers, including 16 who achieved the rank of Brigadier General or higher. In all, 12,000 individuals from LSU served, and over 500 died in this great conflict.


Now say you’re sorry
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 12:52 pm
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 1:05 pm to
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Elleshoe


Yes it was. I 100% agree with the intent of his post. It’s construction didn’t make sense.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 1:09 pm to
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Thanks, dude acted like I was insulting Alabama. What a insecure bunch.



Yup, especially him.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 1:16 pm to
Not as uncommon as you would think.

Early on Kentucky was an A&M school (all male) and was slow to advance women even into the 70's
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

I don't think this would even happened back in that time. I cannot speak to what kind of a connection the University of Alabama has to the military. But I am 100% sure it doesn't come close to LSU. I think 2 years of ROTC was required of all male student all the way up until 1970. Also, other than West Point no school produced as many officers in World War II than Louisiana State University did.


Why does LSU claim this? 14,000 Aggies served as officers in WW2.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64468 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 2:18 pm to
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And LSU had no more officers than any other college in WWII. It was no more “military” than Florida, Georgia, etc

That’s objectivity false fwiw
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 4:08 pm to
Nice read.


Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64945 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

I cannot speak to what kind of a connection the University of Alabama has to the military. But I am 100% sure it doesn't come close to LSU.


You would be wrong. The University of Alabama was once a military college in the same style as West Point. Our football team's original nickname was the Cadets.



This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 4:22 pm
Posted by WV Sage
Ripley, WV
Member since Nov 2016
228 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 5:18 pm to
An odd fact from the Civil War.... William Tecumseh Sherman was I believe the First Superintendent at LSU and left to take a command in the Union Army when the War began....He certainly gave Georgia and South Carolina something to think about ...
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