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re: Now that we know NICO is eligible and will be playing in 2024...

Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by Smokeys Howl
Member since Oct 2022
1985 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:30 pm to
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Who TF is NICO


Someone Kirby is desperate to take out. Someone that GUMP fears above all others.

And someone we don't need in order to own LSU.

Beating LSU is child's play.

This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 1:31 pm
Posted by IvIerlot
Knoxville, TN
Member since Oct 2022
695 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:35 pm to
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2000 8-3 #25
2001 10-2 #8
2002 7-4 unranked
2003 10-2, #7
2004 9-3, #15
2007 9-4, #16

Why embellish, Vols would have likely made the playoffs in only two of the years you listed.


That's not true.
I don't know how 2000 got on there
I never said 2002
but 01, 03, 04 are 100% playoffs
2007 with a SEC Championship, which I am not counting, but for relevant sakes, a win there and we are in, again relevant.

Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3733 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:35 pm to
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Two of those years, the third loss came in the bowl game.


Nope, records/rankings I cited were all at the end of the regular season, bowl game losses not included.

LINK

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With our schedule, two loss regular seasons has us in the playoffs.


Again, rankings from same time frame CFP would have been selected. Vols in top 12 only two of those years.

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Still not "late 90's"


I agree.





Posted by IvIerlot
Knoxville, TN
Member since Oct 2022
695 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:44 pm to
"bowl game losses not included."

Should of said post season, because 2004 the third loss came in the SECCG.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38116 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:49 pm to
Vols are now bragging about hypotheticals from 20+ years ago
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3733 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:53 pm to
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That's not true.
I don't know how 2000 got on there
I never said 2002


"But would have been in a 12 team play-off in 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004... and was in the SEC Championship game in 2007. But LSWHO knocked us out."

Direct quote from you, I included 2002 for lagniappe.

quote:

but 01, 03, 04 are 100% playoffs


Vols were ranked 15th prior to bowl game in 2004, they would not have gotten in. Hence me saying they would have likely been in the playoffs two of the years.

quote:

2007 with a SEC Championship, which I am not counting, but for relevant sakes, a win there and we are in, again relevant.


Posssibly, it was a crazy year. Vols still had 3 losses before that game, not sure how it all shook out after the conference championships but it wasn't a sure thing.


Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3733 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:55 pm to
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Should of said post season, because 2004 the third loss came in the SECCG.


Third loss would have been considered by CFP when making selection.
Posted by IvIerlot
Knoxville, TN
Member since Oct 2022
695 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:56 pm to
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Vols were ranked 15th prior to bowl game in 2004, they would not have gotten in. Hence me saying they would have likely been in the playoffs two of the years.


Vols were in the SECCG in 2004, so back to the original "relevant" we are relevant in 2004, though I do recognize that the 2004 loss in the SECCG probably would have knocked us out of playoff contention.

Same for 2007.

quote:

2000


typo
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 2:05 pm to
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"bowl game losses not included."

Should of said post season, because 2004 the third loss came in the SECCG.


THat will still count for playoff selection. If after a SECCG loss a team is 15th, they aren't in the playoff.
Posted by IvIerlot
Knoxville, TN
Member since Oct 2022
695 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 2:15 pm to
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THat will still count for playoff selection. If after a SECCG loss a team is 15th, they aren't in the playoff.


But enough to make the comment, "not been relevant since late 90's" an unfair comment. As in being in a 12 team playoff was a second criteria of relevancy, being in the SECCG is a trumping criteria for relevancy.
Posted by IvIerlot
Knoxville, TN
Member since Oct 2022
695 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 2:17 pm to
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Vols are now bragging about hypotheticals from 20+ years ago


Not really. Just saying "not relevant since late 90's" is a weak troll, and passing time till spring football practice starts.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38116 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 2:22 pm to
The point he made still stands: vols have struggled big time since the 1900’s ended.
Posted by IvIerlot
Knoxville, TN
Member since Oct 2022
695 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 2:46 pm to
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The point he made still stands: vols have struggled big time since the 1900’s ended.



The point is relevancy. No, it doesn't stand.

And adding in words like "struggled" and "big time" is just as weak.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38116 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 2:58 pm to
Relevance is subjective.

Not everyone considers what the vols have done this century to be relevant.

Zero sec titles and 2 top 10 finishes = pathetic and irrelevant.
Posted by IvIerlot
Knoxville, TN
Member since Oct 2022
695 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 3:11 pm to
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Relevance is subjective.

pathetic and irrelevant.


I can agree we have been pathetic and irrelevant in the world of college football since 2008. Far as I can go with it.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38116 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 3:14 pm to
Not finishing top 10 ONCE:

2002-2007.

Irrelevance
Posted by Smokeys Howl
Member since Oct 2022
1985 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 3:28 pm to
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But enough to make the comment, "not been relevant since late 90's" an unfair comment.


It's total BS.

Hell, we were 'relevant' in 22. One bad game away from the playoff. That's relevant.

These goobers are just scared shltless of UT being back on the upswing.

And with NIL, and our deep pockets?

We'll never be 'irrelevant' again. And that scares the shlt out of them.

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I can agree we have been pathetic and irrelevant in the world of college football since 2008


wtf are you talking about?

You forget 2022?
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 3:31 pm
Posted by teamjackson
call me Walnut
Member since Nov 2012
7040 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 3:31 pm to
Tennessee and Nebraska have the same relevancy.

Once big time programs that have a solid fanbase. But really hasn't accomplished anything of note in 25 years.
Posted by Smokeys Howl
Member since Oct 2022
1985 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 3:34 pm to
Poor kid. Keep whistling past the graveyard, GUMP.
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 3:36 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38116 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 3:36 pm to
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It's total BS. Hell, we were 'relevant' in 22. One bad game away from the playoff. That's relevant.


2001 and 2022 were the only top 10’s this century for your vols. That’s a giant pile of irrelevance.
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