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Posted on 4/16/13 at 6:06 pm to engie
Posted on 4/16/13 at 6:06 pm to engie
I'm just going to end this caise this is too stupid. Has Arizona been the better program recently? Sure. But that doesn't mean its a better job than UCLA. UCLA will always be a top 10 job. Why? 11 championships, 18 final fours, about 45+ tourneys, 42 conference championships, a NBA resume that only Kentucky rivals, being in like the coolest city in the world, being able to recruit on name alone, being in the middle of one of the deepest ball recruiting hotbeds in the world, had a run of about 55 straight years without a losing season. UCLA will ALWAYS be a top 10 job
This post was edited on 4/16/13 at 6:07 pm
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Posted on 4/16/13 at 6:07 pm to WestCoastAg
Its debatable which team has been better recently.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 6:08 pm to WAOMrebears
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God bless you get more stupid with each post. I'm trying to do you a favor. Just stop typing and realize you lost this one.
When this is all you've got to come back with in a debate where I've based my EVERY POST on FACTUAL, tangible numbers -- your arse is owned and you are grasping at straws.
"bwutttt I twink ucla iz elite!!1!1". It's less fricking elite than Arizona -- which is exactly what I said initially that flipped the skirts of you dumb fricks.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 6:10 pm to WAOMrebears
"Debatable?" "Lately?"
I showed with conclusiveness over 29 seasons which has been better. 29 is a pretty fricking good sample size in basketball.
I showed with conclusiveness over 29 seasons which has been better. 29 is a pretty fricking good sample size in basketball.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 6:15 pm to engie
A. 1 championship game. 3 final fours. 4 sweet sixteens. 11 tournament appearances
B. 1 championship game. 1 final four. 3 elite eights. 3 sweet sixteens. 13 tournament appearances
Could you seriously argue which team has been more successful the past 15 years?
B. 1 championship game. 1 final four. 3 elite eights. 3 sweet sixteens. 13 tournament appearances
Could you seriously argue which team has been more successful the past 15 years?
This post was edited on 4/16/13 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 4/16/13 at 6:16 pm to WestCoastAg
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Has Arizona been the better program recently? Sure.
Over 98% of everyone posting here's entire lifetimes = "recently"?
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UCLA will always be a top 10 job.
You also think that Miami is absolutely a top 10 football job too, right? City, culture, recruiting, history? EXACT SAME SCENARIO as all the bullshite you just spouted out about UCLA.
No one in LA gives a frick about UCLA anymore. NO ELITE JOB in college basketball performs in front of a half empty arena at every game.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 6:17 pm to WAOMrebears
Now STFU engie and GTFO
Hence why I only used 15 years
Hence why I only used 15 years
This post was edited on 4/16/13 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 4/16/13 at 6:20 pm to WAOMrebears
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A. 1 championship game. 3 final fours. 4 sweet sixteens. 11 tournament appearances
B. 1 championship game. 1 final four. 3 elite eights. 3 sweet sixteens. 13 tournament appearances
If you are going to set the metric directly AFTER Arizona most recently won the national title, could you at least get your numbers correct? Nice try on the number skew...
Posted on 4/16/13 at 6:21 pm to WAOMrebears
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Now STFU engie and GTFO
Hence why I only used 15 years
And you even managed to frick that up.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 6:22 pm to engie
I was going to use fifteen years because that seems like recent basketball frame. If you'd like we can use twenty years and Arizona get a title and both teams get one more final Four.. THen does that prove your point? Nope
This post was edited on 4/16/13 at 6:25 pm
Posted on 4/16/13 at 6:23 pm to Tiger Live2
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Now I have said VT would fall off after Beamer, but all VT has done under Beamer is lose to almost every single top 5 team they have played.
i would argue the opposite. i think Beamer is holding them back. he's not an aggressive recruiter and it sitting in the middle of a hotbed of talent from the Tidewater area of VA to the DC area. they've got good fan support and resource. their next coach could take them to new levels, especially w/ the SEC membership.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 6:24 pm to WAOMrebears
You do realize the whole argument was that after K leaves Duke, they are going to be in the shite hole "just like UCLA". Why did you adjust your facts and not use Kentucky as an example also? Cause your whole logic is bs. Duke will get Mike Brey or Johnny Dawkins. Based on your basketball knowledge, I'd say you have no clue who they are, but trust me, Duke will be fine.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 6:26 pm to WAOMrebears
Wouldn't 20 years give both Zona and UCLA a NT. When did UCLA win their last one? 95?
Posted on 4/16/13 at 6:28 pm to Tiger Live2
I knew it was at least an elite eight but didn't feel like looking it up. It wouldn't have mattered with engie. I'm sure I would have been skewing numbers then too.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 6:28 pm to engie
quote:you do realize you shorted UCLA a title right in your initial time frame? they are a wash for the past 25/30 years
Over 98% of everyone posting here's entire lifetimes = "recently"?
ETA: yes tigerlive you are correct. UCLA beat arky in 95
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You also think that Miami is absolutely a top 10 football job too, right?
i didnt realize miami was a powerhouse since the start of college football like UCLA has been to college basketball
This post was edited on 4/16/13 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 4/16/13 at 6:35 pm to winyahpercy
I think UVA could return to being the top football program of the state. Especially if they join the SEC. A sleeper though to become that team is ODU(pains me to say it). The best talent in VA is in their backyard. VT is about 5 hours from the Tidewater(UVA is about 3)
Posted on 4/16/13 at 6:36 pm to WAOMrebears
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I was going to use fifteen years because that seems like recent basketball frame. If you'd like we can use twenty years and Arizona get a title and both teams get one more final Four.. THen does that prove your point? Nope
You need to learn to count.
Since 2000:
UCLA-10 tourney appearances, 4 conference titles, 6 Sweet 16, 3 Elite 8, 3 final 4, 1 runner-up
Arizona-12 tourney appearances, 4 conference titles, 7 Sweet 16, 4 Elite 8, 1 final 4, 1 runner-up
Since 1990:
UCLA-20 tourney appearances, 8 conference titles, 11 Sweet 16, 6 Elite 8, 4 final 4, 1 runner-up, 1 title
Arizona-22 tourney appearances, 9 conference titles, 12 Sweet 16, 7 Elite 8, 3 final 4, 1 runner-up, 1 title
All while hiring great coaches -- holding great coaches -- and pulling in twice the fan support.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 6:44 pm to engie
Steve Lavin-- hired only cause he was the longest standing assistant after Harrick got fired.. That's a great coach? lol.. Yes Ben Howland was a good coach and took them to three final fours.. You really aren't very smart are you?
Posted on 4/16/13 at 6:46 pm to WAOMrebears
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Why are you responding to yourself?
I never said a damn thing about UK -- I never said a damn thing about Virginia Tech. I never said a damn thing about Duke. Quit trying to apply those arguments to me -- I didn't make them.
I simply agreed that UCLA is no longer the same type of elite job that it was in the past.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 6:51 pm to WestCoastAg
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i didnt realize miami was a powerhouse since the start of college football like UCLA has been to college basketball
UCLA has been a "powerhouse" for one tremendous, unmatchable 20 year run under Wooden. They were jackshit back when Rupp was winning championships. Didn't make their first tourney until the 50s. Don't pretend that they've been there from the beginning.
No, right now -- today -- they are not elite -- and neither is Arizona for that matter.
This post was edited on 4/16/13 at 6:53 pm
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