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re: NFL Execs explain the Mallett slide
Posted on 4/30/11 at 4:04 pm to molsusports
Posted on 4/30/11 at 4:04 pm to molsusports
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A more complete pure passer than Manning? What exactly do you think is Manning's skill set?
you never saw manning in college did you? he had some of the same issues as mallett. In fact when he was first in the league, until when the Saints beat his arse in the SB, he has happy feet and fails under pressure. I understand that Manning avoids a lot of pressure by calling all of those audibles, etc. BUT he couldn't make those throws like back shoulder fades, etc. until he was in the league for a few years. Mallett makes them now.
You are stupid if you believed that Manning was everything or just too young to remember him as a COLLEGE qb.
Name me others FWIW. I put B Jones and other strong armed QBs in there as well. First QB I ever saw play live that I remember was him. Saw Woodley, Ensminger, Hodson, all of them since the early late 60s and I can't remember an LSU or any opposing QB do to us what that guy did and not be part of a "system" like the UF Qbs.
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Posted on 4/30/11 at 4:04 pm to wmr
I'm sorry, but Ryan doesn't have to change anything about the way he talks, dresses, or carries himself.
If he has drugs issues, then yes, he should fix that. If he has a quick temper/is too emotional at times, he should work on that. But last I checked, in the NFL it's about what you do on the field, not whether or not you use a correct dialect or dress appropriately for your skin color and hometown region according to "Real white guys who know how to act like real white guys."
If he has drugs issues, then yes, he should fix that. If he has a quick temper/is too emotional at times, he should work on that. But last I checked, in the NFL it's about what you do on the field, not whether or not you use a correct dialect or dress appropriately for your skin color and hometown region according to "Real white guys who know how to act like real white guys."
Posted on 4/30/11 at 4:05 pm to Crow Pie
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A more complete pure passer than Manning? What exactly do you think is Manning's skill set?
Running the Wishbone!!
Posted on 4/30/11 at 4:08 pm to molsusports
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would have traded for Kolb, Matt Flynn, or picked up Marc Bulger
you are assuming that those teams would have let their ONLY back-up go. Without Rogers, the Pack loses the SB. Without Ben the Steelers do not go. Sorry to burst your bubble, but Flynn is not the answer and neither are those other 2 you mention. in fact, Cassle is pretty sorry at KC if you ask me. I saw every KC game last year living up here short term.
Posted on 4/30/11 at 4:08 pm to HogKing111
No, you're right. He doesn't have to do anything.
If he had a better image, he'd probably be about 30 million richer right now.
I guess thats a fair tradeoff.
If he had a better image, he'd probably be about 30 million richer right now.
I guess thats a fair tradeoff.
This post was edited on 4/30/11 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 4/30/11 at 4:08 pm to HogKing111
You have to command respect as a QB. His blaccent isn't getting it done, and nobody wants to hear that shite. Maybe it's not right or politically correct, but this is the real world where nobody gives a frick.
Posted on 4/30/11 at 4:12 pm to Jaketigger
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he couldn't make those throws like back shoulder fades, etc. until he was in the league for a few years
this is just false
I doubt you really watched manning with open eyes... because it was clear that he was a tremendous passing QB in college
the argument between manning and leaf was maybe that leaf had a better arm but peyton was more polished
ryan mallet was a very good college qb but he does not compare (at least not favorably) with peyton manning
Posted on 4/30/11 at 4:13 pm to molsusports
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if the patriots really needed a starting QB this year they would have traded for Kolb, Matt Flynn, or picked up Marc Bulger
I guess they're thinking they'll get maybe 3 more good years out of Brady.
Posted on 4/30/11 at 4:15 pm to wmr
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No, you're right. He doesn't have to do anything.
If he had a better image, he'd probably be about 30 million richer right now.
I guess thats a fair tradeoff.
Petrino and Mallett's teammates thought he was a pretty good leader. He looked like a pretty damn good leader on the field over the 26 games I watched.
If every NFL exec was as smart as Belichick, he would have been drafted first round. It's not Ryan's problem that NFL exec's want a "whiter" white-boy QB and in order to achieve that they surpass him, a 1st round talent, to grab a 3rd round talent Locker, Ponder, etc...
BTW, the way Mallett talks and dresses has been blown way out of proportion and has been exaggerated to the nth degree.
This post was edited on 4/30/11 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 4/30/11 at 4:16 pm to wmr
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No, you're right. He doesn't have to do anything.
If he had a better image, he'd probably be about 30 million richer right now.
I guess thats a fair tradeoff.
Another case of Whitey keeping the Wannabe Black Man down.
Posted on 4/30/11 at 4:16 pm to UtahHawg
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His blaccent isn't getting it done
Funny, how many times did you say this before the NFL draft?
Posted on 4/30/11 at 4:17 pm to molsusports
Brady wants to play for 5 more years...
Posted on 4/30/11 at 4:17 pm to Esarhaddon
patriots picking up mallett is really smart IMO
3rd round pick isn't that risky. if he works out you get tremendous value. they are willing to gamble on "character" guys at times and just wash their hands of them eventually if they don't work out for some reason (dillon, moss)
and maybe he works out... best case maybe they get the kind of trade value from him they got for moving Cassell (another highly valuable backup that they traded... just like the Eagles traded McNabb and will probably soon trade Kolb, and the packers will move Flynn for teh right price)
3rd round pick isn't that risky. if he works out you get tremendous value. they are willing to gamble on "character" guys at times and just wash their hands of them eventually if they don't work out for some reason (dillon, moss)
and maybe he works out... best case maybe they get the kind of trade value from him they got for moving Cassell (another highly valuable backup that they traded... just like the Eagles traded McNabb and will probably soon trade Kolb, and the packers will move Flynn for teh right price)
Posted on 4/30/11 at 4:18 pm to HogKing111
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Funny, how many times did you say this before the NFL draf
I have been saying this since last year.
Posted on 4/30/11 at 4:22 pm to molsusports
I think so too, i can't believe he slid this far personally, the character issues are wayyyy overrated IMO.
Posted on 4/30/11 at 4:23 pm to wmr
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If he had a better image, he'd probably be about 30 million richer right now.
# 1 pick - Sam Bradford got 78 million over 7 yr w 50 million..guaranteed
85th pick - Colt McCoy got 4.7 million over 4 yrs.....with about 751K guaranteed
Mallett "partying perception" cost him dearly
This post was edited on 4/30/11 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 4/30/11 at 4:42 pm to PuntBamaPunt
Tom Brady was drafted in 2000. He could realisticly be playing only 4-5 more years in the league.
Dan Marino-(1983–1999) 16 seasons
John Elway-(1983–1998) 15
Brett Favre(1991-2010) 19
Jim Kelly- (1984-1996) 12
We could see Ryan Mallett starting before we know it. It will also give him time to learn from Tom Brady like Aaron Rogers did from Brett Favre.
Dan Marino-(1983–1999) 16 seasons
John Elway-(1983–1998) 15
Brett Favre(1991-2010) 19
Jim Kelly- (1984-1996) 12
We could see Ryan Mallett starting before we know it. It will also give him time to learn from Tom Brady like Aaron Rogers did from Brett Favre.
Posted on 4/30/11 at 4:47 pm to HogKing111
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If he has drugs issues, then yes, he should fix that.
Mallett says he's done with drugs.
Love Mallett, but this dude looks just like him
Posted on 4/30/11 at 6:35 pm to HogKing111
Its not just the fact that he talks the way he does. Its that it seems forced. I'm not one to ridicule someone from the deep south for their accent (like Haley Barbour) or anything else like that.
But Mallett was born in Batesville and spent his formative years in Lincoln. The only people I know who are from the gotdam Ozarks who talk like they wanna be Lil Wayne are total douchebags.
Its a perception that is shared by a lot of people. If I encountered someone in business who was born and raised in Springdale who talked like Mallett, I'd wonder WTF? It would make me question that person's maturity, sincerity and character.
That's the perception, and its a hard lesson to learn.
Look, I was a complete moron at the age of 22, so I'm not damning the guy. Sheeeeeeit.
Its just a shame, that's all.
But Mallett was born in Batesville and spent his formative years in Lincoln. The only people I know who are from the gotdam Ozarks who talk like they wanna be Lil Wayne are total douchebags.
Its a perception that is shared by a lot of people. If I encountered someone in business who was born and raised in Springdale who talked like Mallett, I'd wonder WTF? It would make me question that person's maturity, sincerity and character.
That's the perception, and its a hard lesson to learn.
Look, I was a complete moron at the age of 22, so I'm not damning the guy. Sheeeeeeit.
Its just a shame, that's all.
Posted on 5/1/11 at 8:24 am to molsusports
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the argument between manning and leaf was maybe that leaf had a better arm but peyton was more polished
I watched manning and yes, this was the argument, but it wasn't all about making thoes throws that Mallett can make, it was about pedigre and the fact that manning was a senior AND he could read defenses pretty well even at that point.
Open eyes? I LOVED P Manning in college. I still believe Archie was the best thing that ever happened to the Saints.
I just wished he would have left after his junior year and went to the Saints, but I certainly understand why he didn't. So he got his in the end, by the Saints beating his arse in the SB.
Also, if you noticed in that game, when he was rushed, he threw picks and bad passes. Do don't tell me he still doesn't have those tendencies and a big game flop.
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