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NCAA Rule Change: 10 second run off

Posted on 2/11/11 at 9:09 am
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 9:09 am
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Among numerous recommendations developed at this week’s meetings in Indianapolis, the committee proposed the implementation of a 10-second runoff rule if a team commits a foul that stops the clock in the final minute of both halves. Already enforced in the NFL but for the final two minutes of both halves, the rule would prevent teams from purposely committing penalties as a means to stop the clock in the game’s waning moments.

According to an NCAA press release, the opponent will have three options if the penalty is committed against it. It can take the yardage and the 10-second rundown; neglect the yardage and accept the 10-second rundown; or it can decline both.

“The idea is to prevent a team from gaining an advantage by committing a foul to stop the clock,” said Rogers Redding, who was recently named college football’s national officiating coordinator after serving for years as the SEC’s coordinator of football officials. Redding also is the secretary-rules editor for the NCAA’s football rules committee.


I wonder what lead them to this rule change
Posted by Mac
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 9:14 am to
Anything to get a shorter game.
Posted by NoogaTiger
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Jul 2007
33 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 9:19 am to
I can't recall this rule needing to be inforced more than once in my life. I know the UT-UNC game this year. Can you think of any others?
Posted by 4nmylifetime
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 10:15 am to
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I can't recall this rule needing to be inforced more than once in my life


That's 1 to many.
Posted by aroussel3Tigers
Member since Mar 2009
4905 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 10:18 am to
frick... We are gonna have a hard time with this rule!
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 10:23 am to
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a 10-second runoff rule if a team commits a foul that stops the clock in the final minute of both halves
The too many men penalty didn't stop the clock. Spiking the ball did. Would not have mattered in the MCB.
Posted by QCC
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 10:26 am to
Nick Fairley timed it just right
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 10:27 am to
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Would not have mattered in the MCB.


yes it would, there would have been a run off.

Commit penalty, yet manage to spike the ball with 3 seconds left...10 second run off...game over.

It's really not that complicated
This post was edited on 2/11/11 at 10:29 am
Posted by ThaKaptin
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 10:30 am to
Unless that change the part that the game cannot end on a defensive penalty, then no, it still wouldn't matter. Would get one more play with 00:00 on clock.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 10:31 am to
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Unless that change the part that the game cannot end on a defensive penalty, then no, it still wouldn't matter. Would get one more play with 00:00 on clock.


Music City Bowl, Not LSU game.


I agree this would not have made a difference against LSU, but no one has mentioned that game.
This post was edited on 2/11/11 at 10:32 am
Posted by ottothewise
Member since Sep 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 10:32 am to
they need to keep guys off the field for 5 minutes who fake an injury.

if you have to get help, you have to leave the field for 5 minutes.

CAL-Berkeley nearly beat Oregon last year, and it was not just all good defense. They faked injuries. They also blew a couple of plays that would have won that game. Kind of instant karma.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26522 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 10:38 am to
A new end of game clock management rule + Les Miles = some guaranteed excitement for the SEC.
Posted by ThaKaptin
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21741 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 10:41 am to
Oh, my bad, thought u were talking about the 13 men on the field game. Lol
Posted by angryslugs
Member since Apr 2008
11338 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:32 am to
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they need to keep guys off the field for 5 minutes who fake an injury. if you have to get help, you have to leave the field for 5 minutes.


i like this. also charge timeout in last 2 minutes of half like the NFL.
Posted by NukemVol
Member since Jan 2010
1693 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:47 am to
So people believe with the NFL rule system, the MCB would not have ended with a penalty?


lol
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:52 am to
I thought in teh UNC game, UNC had too many men on teh field adn teh ball was snapped and grounded with 1 second left(after the review showed that). UNC was pushed back 10 yards and tehn kicked the FG.

How does this rule apply in that case? The penalty was not commited to stop the clock...the grounding of the ball was.

Since a half cannot end on a defensive penalty, then this rule is for the offense only...why would the offense commit a penalty to stop the clock when ending the play and spiking the ball would do the same?

Would this penalty affect the Big 12 title game when Colt threw the ball out of bounds with 1 second left?
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:55 am to
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Redding said the ending of December's Music City Bowl "generated much conversation" about the need to adopt such a rule, which the NFL already has. In that game, North Carolina was penalized with one second left against Tennessee for having too many men on the field when spiking the ball in an effort to stop the clock. But the stoppage enabled the Tar Heels to get their field-goal unit into the game and kick the tying field goal on the last play.

UNC then won the game in double overtime. Under the proposed rule change, the 10-second runoff would have ended the game before the field goal, and Tennessee would have won. The recommendation must be approved by the NCAA's playing rules oversight panel, which meets in April.



LINK
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:58 am to
There needs to be some verbage about whether or not the penalty was intentional or if just a penalty being called regardless.

UNC was not trying to stop the clock by commiting a penalty, they were trying to switch units with the clock running. It was an inadvertant penalty.

So this rule would penalize the offense regardless of intent.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 12:02 pm to
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UNC was not trying to stop the clock by commiting a penalty, they were trying to switch units with the clock running. It was an inadvertant penalty.


Nothing inadvertant about it, Yates knew they had too many men on the field. The kicker and holder were lined up directly behind him.

It was a heady play. UNC took advantage of a bad rule.
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 2/12/11 at 1:48 pm to
10 second runoff is only part of the changes for 2011.....let the whining begin.
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