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Posted on 1/12/11 at 1:40 pm to
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 1/12/11 at 1:40 pm to
Do you actually know people involved in the investigation, or is this just an assumption at this point?
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 1/12/11 at 1:41 pm to
He's one of the main Op Red Doggers from ITAT.
Posted by McKeezy
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Posted on 1/12/11 at 1:41 pm to
win
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 1/12/11 at 1:44 pm to
You just never know who has connections to this whole mess.

For all we know, you might know someone who knows something, and you are just giving us the chance to read between the lines.
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 1/12/11 at 1:46 pm to
WDE24 - Do YOU work for the NCAA?

You are very supportive of them, their enforcement, etc. Hell, you are supportive of everybody.

You think that Cecil Newton "made a mistake" and "saw the error of his ways" when MSU spurned him in his pursuit of payment for Cam. You think Cecil therefore, shunned MSU, repented for his transgressions, and thought it would be a better decision for Cam to attend a holy place like AU. Where everyone is "Family" and God has a hand in bringing a NC to the Plains at the hand of Cameron Newton. Cam even said himself that he was "an instrument of God."

Forgive me while I puke.
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 1/12/11 at 1:47 pm to
A money trail is proof. What other evidence that you are claiming is "he said, she said". Unless someone is driving a new charger or living in a new house or a new church, its over.
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 1/12/11 at 1:49 pm to
How do you think Richard Scrushy was found guilty when he hid his money trail?
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 1/12/11 at 1:49 pm to
The NCAA's burden of proof is not equal to the legal professions burden of proof. It's doubtful they'll ever have a bank account showing a check to Cecil for $200k with a notation at the bottom saying "For: Cam to attend Auburn", which is really what it would take for you and a few others to actually believe that happened.
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 1/12/11 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

The NCAA's burden of proof is not equal to the legal professions burden of proof. It's doubtful they'll ever have a bank account showing a check to Cecil for $200k with a notation at the bottom saying "For: Cam to attend Auburn", which is really what it would take for you and a few others to actually believe that happened.


Even in the Mean's case it took money withdraws from Young's bank account to prove their case.
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 1/12/11 at 1:53 pm to
That was amidst technology from 20 years ago.
Posted by BamaDan
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Posted on 1/12/11 at 1:53 pm to
The ncaa never PROVED a money trail to logan young and look what happened to us. The things auburn fans want us to believe are just absurd.

The vast majority of circumstantial evidence points towards something illegal happening, not the other way. Keep spinning aubies.
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 1/12/11 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

A money trail is proof. What other evidence that you are claiming is "he said, she said". Unless someone is driving a new charger or living in a new house or a new church, its over.



Watch out there dude. There are some pretty stiff rumors that Cecil recently got approved for a $400,000 house that may have been built with some Yella Wood in Gawga.
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 1/12/11 at 1:58 pm to
Bank deposits and bank withdraws. The case would have never seen the light of day without it. Logan Young stories were around for year before they found the proof they needed.
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 1/12/11 at 1:59 pm to
If Auburn fans convince themselves they are safe, it has no bearing on the actions of the NCAA.

The investigation isn't closed. Until it is, they really have no business saying how the NCAA will interpret evidence, or what they will need to find them innocent or guilty.

At this point, I don't think anyone, including the NCAA knows... But my guess, certainly not as someone who knows anything, would be that they will continue to look for things to connect dots, and that the public won't be privy to such findings until the NCAA wants them to be.

Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 1/12/11 at 2:00 pm to
I admit Bama was guilty, as will every other Bama fan. I can also admit that there was identical denial, such as Auburn's in the Cam case. Retrospect allows me to see that. Blind homerism prevents you from it.
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 1/12/11 at 2:01 pm to
So you still haven't answered whether you know people close to the investigation to be able to make such definitive statements.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 1/12/11 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

the public won't be privy to such findings until the NCAA wants them to be.


This is correct. The main thing at this point, is that it is a fact that the NCAA continues to dig and has not put this behind, as many people are hoping and wishing.
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 1/12/11 at 2:04 pm to
I wish I knew people who were involved who would tell me what's going on behind the scenes. I would love to be a fly on that wall.
Posted by BamaDan
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Posted on 1/12/11 at 2:05 pm to
No kidding, they never proved WHERE the money went. They couldn't do it, no matter how hard they tried. But they nailed us anyway. Keep believing its over, that'll make it so much better if the ncaa grows a pair and acts.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 1/12/11 at 2:08 pm to
I will say that the people who are in position to know what is going on are not worried. Most think that the investigation is over. Auburn did a lot of the NCAA's work on the investigation and the NCAA accepted their report after they they checked the sources.
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