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re: Most attractive SEC Jobs
Posted on 9/19/12 at 9:54 am to dallasCONSTag
Posted on 9/19/12 at 9:54 am to dallasCONSTag
I actually think the Bama job is much further down the list. Its a very unique job. Unbelieveable history and tradition (some of which Bama made up, but thats another story). Huge pressure from the fans and alumni. Not everyone wants to handle that pressure.
I feel sorry for the guy who comes in behind Nick Saban. Bama might have another spell of 2-3 coaches before they get to the next long term keeper.
I feel sorry for the guy who comes in behind Nick Saban. Bama might have another spell of 2-3 coaches before they get to the next long term keeper.
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Posted on 9/19/12 at 9:55 am to zachary77
Tennessee is historically probably the second best program.
But they have been non existent for over a decade. Since Richt got to Georgia and starting taking away all the Georgia kids they use to pluck it has been downhill. It is even harder for them now because Saban kills it in Georgia and Auburn is in Georgia.
They could get back to being a monster with the right hire, but he would have to change the way they use to win recruiting wise. I think Kiffin could have made them relevant again, this next hire will be almost make or break.
All you TAMU people just dont understand, it is the big 6, dropoff, everyone else. Of course certain non big 6 teams will have years where they pop up and win big (see Arkansas), but they will never consistently compete with the big 6 year in and year out, it's just not in the cards. Though Spurrier has USCe competing year in and year out with the big boys. I am interested to see what happens to their program once he retires, if they go back in the doldrums or if they can sustain the momentum.
But they have been non existent for over a decade. Since Richt got to Georgia and starting taking away all the Georgia kids they use to pluck it has been downhill. It is even harder for them now because Saban kills it in Georgia and Auburn is in Georgia.
They could get back to being a monster with the right hire, but he would have to change the way they use to win recruiting wise. I think Kiffin could have made them relevant again, this next hire will be almost make or break.
All you TAMU people just dont understand, it is the big 6, dropoff, everyone else. Of course certain non big 6 teams will have years where they pop up and win big (see Arkansas), but they will never consistently compete with the big 6 year in and year out, it's just not in the cards. Though Spurrier has USCe competing year in and year out with the big boys. I am interested to see what happens to their program once he retires, if they go back in the doldrums or if they can sustain the momentum.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 9:57 am to schlow mo
Georgia produces tons of quality football players. Auburn, Bama, FSU, Tennessee, South Carolina, Clemson, Florida all come in here and get good players. UGA seems to get most of em, but not all by a mile. Then you have Tech picking up some pieces here and there as well. Hell even Kentucky has made some inroads in Lagrange Ga, which is 60 miles from Auburn.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:02 am to AUTiger83
Yeah there are enough kids in Georgia to supply all of these teams. But Tennessee used to get the best kids from Georgia. Hence, why Ray Goff sucked so much arse.
Auburn will always get a lot of players from Georgia just because of proximity.
Tech gets the leftovers, except Megatron.
The closest part of Georgia to Tennessee is northwestern Georgia where I am from and we just don't produce that many good football players. Though Bama has had two commits from my hometown in the last 2 years, I think the one from this year just flipped to LSU though.
Auburn will always get a lot of players from Georgia just because of proximity.
Tech gets the leftovers, except Megatron.
The closest part of Georgia to Tennessee is northwestern Georgia where I am from and we just don't produce that many good football players. Though Bama has had two commits from my hometown in the last 2 years, I think the one from this year just flipped to LSU though.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:02 am to AUTiger83
IMO it isn't the school that is attractive it is the coach. Look at Oregon, before Chip Kelly, no where near the success Kelly has had in such a short period of time. Bama and LSU before Saban. The coach makes the program. If any coach is worth his salt, the SEC destination would not matter, only what he can accomplish on the field.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:02 am to dallasCONSTag
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Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:04 am to 10888bge
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Bama and LSU before Saban
One of these shouldn't be here
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If any coach is worth his salt, the SEC destination would not matter
There are inherent limitations in certain SEC programs (See State, Ole Miss, Kentucky, Vandy, Mizzou)
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:06 am to dallasCONSTag
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Had no idea there was a protocol to start posting here... By all means... Share....
It is a protocol made up by people on this site that makes them feel important. Please play along because this is how some equate their self worth.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:06 am to HogTusks
As an A&M alum, I personally believe we are 8-9 currently.
Florida
Bama
LSU
Georgia
Auburn
Scar
Tennessee
Arkansas
A&M
The rest
Florida
Bama
LSU
Georgia
Auburn
Scar
Tennessee
Arkansas
A&M
The rest
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:08 am to schlow mo
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Bama and LSU before Saban
One of these shouldn't be here
Nope both schools were sucking before Saban.
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There are inherent limitations in certain SEC programs (See State, Ole Miss, Kentucky, Vandy, Mizzou)
So are you saying that Saban couldn't turn around; State, Ole Miss, Kentucky, Vandy, Mizzou or aTm (my addition to your list)? The right coach makes the school not the other way around. See Alabama Before Bear, and between their last Champ. and until Saban got there.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:11 am to Phil Wenneck
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Florida
Bama
LSU
Georgia
Auburn
Scar
Tennessee
Arkansas
A&M
The rest
Tennessee should be higher. Kiffin could have brought them back.
A&M above Arkansas and SC. At least you're in a state with quality high school football.
Florida being the best job is a joke. There are three enormous programs in the state, and other schools regularly come in and pluck 5 stars out. Spurrier and Meyer, two of the greatest coaches of our generation, brought them to the top. We'll see how Muschamp does.
This post was edited on 9/19/12 at 10:13 am
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:12 am to Phil Wenneck
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Scar
Tennessee
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:13 am to 10888bge
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Nope both schools were sucking before Saban.
Shula went 10-2 one year before he was fired, LSU was a much harder turnaround.
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So are you saying that Saban couldn't turn around; State, Ole Miss, Kentucky, Vandy, Mizzou or aTm
It would be a lot harder, but of course Saban would make all of these schools better, but he would never go there after he made it big or stay there past 3 or 4 years
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See Alabama Before Bear, and between their last Champ. and until Saban got there.
I will let a gump take care of this
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:13 am to zachary77
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I think you guys are overlooking the value of Tenn. football. Obviously, Bama, LSU, and Florida have a lead for the moment due to recent success, but one top flight coach and they could be title contenders on a yearly basis. I surely would rate them higher than Georgia and Cowburn due to overall program winning consistency. Tennessee and Alabama are the founding fathers of southern football. Without these two institutions establishing the SEC brand, LSU and Florida might not have had the opportunity for the level of success they have found since the 90s-00s. Imagine how epic an SEC Championship game Bama v Tennessee will someday be......
This is all well and good. Certainly Tenn has a great history and tremendous resources and support. Still, they simply don't have the recruiting base. They depend on taking kids from other SEC states to win and that is a dangerous proposition for a coach. To make it worse the expectation is for that coach to beat UGA, UF, and Bama who all have tons of homegrown talent. Still a great job but not an easy one.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:13 am to dallasCONSTag
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5-A&M - (Tons of $$, players giggle and get distracted in the shower)
FIFY
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:20 am to PRK
I agree with you about Florida, their stock will probably fall a bit. Same with Arkansas unless they nut up and go get a big time coach. we are completely unproven in the league, and all we have is a large amount of potential.
Bama
Lsu
Florida
Georgia
Auburn
Tennessee
A&M
Scar
Ark
The rest.
This is also a pretty plausible list.
Bama
Lsu
Florida
Georgia
Auburn
Tennessee
A&M
Scar
Ark
The rest.
This is also a pretty plausible list.
This post was edited on 9/19/12 at 10:25 am
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:23 am to AUTiger83
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I actually think the Bama job is much further down the list. Its a very unique job. Unbelieveable history and tradition (some of which Bama made up, but thats another story). Huge pressure from the fans and alumni. Not everyone wants to handle that pressure.
While youre right that a lot of pressure comes with the job but Dubose, Curry, Perkins, and Shula proved that an idiot can win with the talent that pours in to it. Whoever takes over after Saban will have some success but as long as they arent a complete idiot and changes the way the program operates and keeps a strong staff Alabama will stay competitive.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:23 am to aggressor
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aggressor
Tennessee throws more money around on recruiting than any other school in the country. Sure, its a tad more difficult when you don't have a ton of 5* in your back yard,but with the right coach/recruiter, UT can pull top 5 classes just like the rest of the elite schools in the SEC.
UGA and LSU were down in the 90s because of bad recruiting and losing coaches. No one wants to play in a losing environment, kinda like the position UT is in right now.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:24 am to AUTiger83
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I actually think the Bama job is much further down the list. Its a very unique job. Unbelieveable history and tradition (some of which Bama made up, but thats another story). Huge pressure from the fans and alumni. Not everyone wants to handle that pressure.
While your right that a lot of pressure comes with the job but Dubose, Curry, Perkins, and Shula proved that an idiot can win with the talent that pours in to it. Whoever takes over after Saban will have some success but as long as they arent a complete idiot and changes the way the program operates and keeps a strong staff Alabama will stay competitive.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:24 am to schlow mo
quote:4 national titles including 2 Rose Bowl victories, already established as the best traditional SEC program, but had turned into a complete disaster in the 5 years or so before Bryant. But the history and tradition was already there, relatively speaking.
See Alabama Before Bear,
quote:6 West titles, 1 SEC title, 4 10-win seasons. Again, things got really bad in the last couple years before Saban got there.
between their last Champ. and until Saban got there.
But our "mediocrity" is still very good for most places.
This post was edited on 9/19/12 at 10:30 am
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