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Posted on 9/18/12 at 8:58 pm to townestoldme2
townestoldme2
is your name a reference to van zandt? or no..
is your name a reference to van zandt? or no..
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Posted on 9/18/12 at 9:00 pm to mograyback
greatest talent my proud state has ever produced. 
Posted on 9/18/12 at 9:05 pm to Bose Ikard
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A&M and Tenn are both better jobs than Auburn. Tenn is better than Georgia. South Carolina is better than Arkansas.
You sir are high.
Posted on 9/18/12 at 9:06 pm to townestoldme2
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greatest talent my proud state has ever produced.
nice. and agree, its too bad most people never heard of him. first songs i learned to pick were townes songs, i've gone months of really only listening to him. live at the old quarter is branded in my head.
i know i know, football thread.
Posted on 9/18/12 at 9:14 pm to ChrisTAMU
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How is everyone even rating these jobs?
Resources?
In state talent?
History?
Facilities?
Recent success?
It all depends on how you rate it, obviously.
1) Pussy
2) Bars
3) Wealthy boosters
4) More pussy
5) The program's overall cock size
Posted on 9/18/12 at 9:26 pm to BradPitt
I bet if you polled college coaches, most of the shite fans say would be far far far from the truth...
See Urban Meyer leaving florida for "health reasons" and then going right over to OSU.
uh huh...
See Urban Meyer leaving florida for "health reasons" and then going right over to OSU.
uh huh...
Posted on 9/18/12 at 9:51 pm to dallasCONSTag
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Posted on 9/18/12 at 9:59 pm to johnzorback
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They have the 2nd to last worst paid non-interim HC in the SEC
So we should pay Sumlin 3.5 million or so just because? We didn't need to pay him that much to get him here. He made ~1 million at UH IIRC. I'm sure we offered a lot more for the higher profile coaches that turned us down. Fran was also one of the highest paid coaches in the NCAA for a while after we hired him.
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Posted on 9/18/12 at 10:02 pm to Sig
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See Urban Meyer leaving florida for "health reasons" and then going right over to OSU.
pretty dumb comment
Posted on 9/18/12 at 10:03 pm to johnzorback
Basically +1 what Shane said. We should just pay Sumlin $5MM for fun? If he wins here and wins consistently, he will get a substantial raise and extension.
Posted on 9/18/12 at 10:13 pm to JDM1992
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True. Missouri was a lot more successful in the Big 12 than A&M was
They were in a far weaker division, and still never managed to win the conference. 1998 Big 12 Champs say what's up yankee kittens?
Posted on 9/18/12 at 10:19 pm to ShreveportHog94
The elites (which no one seems to be arguing) are Florida, Georgia, Bama, and LSU. You can argue the order but that is really about who is most successful at the moment. Given a choice I would take Florida as #1 because of the depth of resources.
The key metric that is being left out is future potential. A coach looks at a job partially for what they have but also what they could be. That is really where A&M has the big edge. The right coach at A&M could make it into one of the elites because the resources are there. Big school in a big state that is loaded with top end recruits. A&M is the closest AQ school to Houston which has 5% of all NFL players and you could argue that a 250 mile radius from campus (aka driving distance) puts A&M as the most fertile talent of any school in the country.
Arkansas is a great job but it is limited any way you slice it. There just aren't enough football players near by and there aren't enough football players that want to go there to be a consistently elite team.
Missouri has good talent with the StL/KC pipelines but the school hasn't been committed to football to the extent necessary. The stadium, facilities, and fan support is certainly good but a long way from elite. Also if you polled people in Missouri college football is likely to fall behind MLB (esp in St Louis) and the NFL pretty significantly. The potential is there though to be much better and you have a really good coach imo.
Auburn has absolutely fanatical support and great recruiting access. Also they have a track record of success. It's also an attractive job because budgets don't seem to matter if it means winning.
Tennessee has it all but the recruiting base. Absolutely elite in every other way though. Still, that lack of in state talent is a real bear.
South Carolina has a lot of Arkansas' problems except a better base of talent though not quite as deep a pockets (more fans but less Waltons).
The MIssissippi schools are trapped. They have very good of everything but they simply don't have the cash to keep up with the big boys. The fan support is there though.
Vandy has no shot.
Kentucky could actually be pretty solid, maybe Arkie/South Carolina/Mizzou level but they just don't care enough. Football is just something to do while waiting for basketball season.
The key metric that is being left out is future potential. A coach looks at a job partially for what they have but also what they could be. That is really where A&M has the big edge. The right coach at A&M could make it into one of the elites because the resources are there. Big school in a big state that is loaded with top end recruits. A&M is the closest AQ school to Houston which has 5% of all NFL players and you could argue that a 250 mile radius from campus (aka driving distance) puts A&M as the most fertile talent of any school in the country.
Arkansas is a great job but it is limited any way you slice it. There just aren't enough football players near by and there aren't enough football players that want to go there to be a consistently elite team.
Missouri has good talent with the StL/KC pipelines but the school hasn't been committed to football to the extent necessary. The stadium, facilities, and fan support is certainly good but a long way from elite. Also if you polled people in Missouri college football is likely to fall behind MLB (esp in St Louis) and the NFL pretty significantly. The potential is there though to be much better and you have a really good coach imo.
Auburn has absolutely fanatical support and great recruiting access. Also they have a track record of success. It's also an attractive job because budgets don't seem to matter if it means winning.
Tennessee has it all but the recruiting base. Absolutely elite in every other way though. Still, that lack of in state talent is a real bear.
South Carolina has a lot of Arkansas' problems except a better base of talent though not quite as deep a pockets (more fans but less Waltons).
The MIssissippi schools are trapped. They have very good of everything but they simply don't have the cash to keep up with the big boys. The fan support is there though.
Vandy has no shot.
Kentucky could actually be pretty solid, maybe Arkie/South Carolina/Mizzou level but they just don't care enough. Football is just something to do while waiting for basketball season.
Posted on 9/18/12 at 10:31 pm to Rig
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haha, I have been posting on several sites for a very long time and just now made it over to SECRant, so if you think I am some sort of newb at posting on CFF Blogs than you are sadly mistaken...
Go back to those boards. Thanks
Posted on 9/18/12 at 11:38 pm to JDM1992
JDM1992 - completely agree with this selection, with maybe LSU and Florida being interchangeable.
1. Alabama
2. LSU
3. Florida
4. Tennessee
5. Georgia
6. Auburn
7. Texas A&M
8. Arkansas
9. Missouri
10. South Carolina
11. Ole Miss
12. Mississippi State
13. Kentucky
14. Vanderbilt
1. Alabama
2. LSU
3. Florida
4. Tennessee
5. Georgia
6. Auburn
7. Texas A&M
8. Arkansas
9. Missouri
10. South Carolina
11. Ole Miss
12. Mississippi State
13. Kentucky
14. Vanderbilt
Posted on 9/18/12 at 11:53 pm to zachary77
I think you guys are overlooking the value of Tenn. football. Obviously, Bama, LSU, and Florida have a lead for the moment due to recent success, but one top flight coach and they could be title contenders on a yearly basis. I surely would rate them higher than Georgia and Cowburn due to overall program winning consistency. Tennessee and Alabama are the founding fathers of southern football. Without these two institutions establishing the SEC brand, LSU and Florida might not have had the opportunity for the level of success they have found since the 90s-00s. Imagine how epic an SEC Championship game Bama v Tennessee will someday be......
Current Members
School Last Conference Title Number of SEC Titles Number of Divisional Titles
Alabama 2009 22 7
Tennessee 1998 13 6
Georgia 2005 12 6
LSU 2011 11 8
Florida 2008 8 (+1 vacated) 11
Auburn 2010 7 7
Year Conference Overall Record Conference Record
1914 SIAA 9-0 5-0
1927 Southern 8-0-1 7-0
1932 Southern 9-0-1 8-0
1938 SEC 11-0 7-0
1939 SEC 10-1 6-0
1940 SEC 10-1 6-0
1946† SEC 9-2 5-0
1951† SEC 10-1 5-0
1956 SEC 10-1 6-0
1967 SEC 9-2 6-0
1969 SEC 9-2 5-1
1985‡ SEC 9-1-2 5-1
1989† SEC 11-1 6-1
1990 SEC 9-2-2 5-1-1
1997 SEC 11-2 7-1
1998 SEC 13-0 8-0
Total conference championships 16
† Denotes co-champions
All-time bowl appearances
School Appearances W L T
Alabama 59 34 22 3
Texas 50 26 22 2
Tennessee 49 25 24 0
USC 48 32 16 0
Nebraska 47 24 23 0
All-time bowl wins
Rank Team Games
1 Alabama 34
2 USC 32
3 Oklahoma 27
4 Georgia 26
4 Texas 26
6 Tennessee 25
Current Members
School Last Conference Title Number of SEC Titles Number of Divisional Titles
Alabama 2009 22 7
Tennessee 1998 13 6
Georgia 2005 12 6
LSU 2011 11 8
Florida 2008 8 (+1 vacated) 11
Auburn 2010 7 7
Year Conference Overall Record Conference Record
1914 SIAA 9-0 5-0
1927 Southern 8-0-1 7-0
1932 Southern 9-0-1 8-0
1938 SEC 11-0 7-0
1939 SEC 10-1 6-0
1940 SEC 10-1 6-0
1946† SEC 9-2 5-0
1951† SEC 10-1 5-0
1956 SEC 10-1 6-0
1967 SEC 9-2 6-0
1969 SEC 9-2 5-1
1985‡ SEC 9-1-2 5-1
1989† SEC 11-1 6-1
1990 SEC 9-2-2 5-1-1
1997 SEC 11-2 7-1
1998 SEC 13-0 8-0
Total conference championships 16
† Denotes co-champions
All-time bowl appearances
School Appearances W L T
Alabama 59 34 22 3
Texas 50 26 22 2
Tennessee 49 25 24 0
USC 48 32 16 0
Nebraska 47 24 23 0
All-time bowl wins
Rank Team Games
1 Alabama 34
2 USC 32
3 Oklahoma 27
4 Georgia 26
4 Texas 26
6 Tennessee 25
This post was edited on 9/19/12 at 12:01 am
Posted on 9/19/12 at 9:27 am to zachary77
Arky gets no love, from anyone, ever.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 9:40 am to mograyback
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-Missouri just produced the #1 recruit in the nation last year.
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-Monte Ball? Maybe you heard of him... From STL area.
Where are these players at?
You're sorta proving his other point that.. yall recruit for shite.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 9:40 am to JDM1992
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Missouri was a lot more successful in the Big 12 than A&M was
Big 12 North versus Big 12 South.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 9:54 am to relapse98
Yeah. Big 12 North had some weak arse teams. Also, A&M won a Big 12 Championship.
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