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re: Miss. St trailed Texas 7-6 just before 1st half and 14-6 until final play of 3rd qtr

Posted on 10/9/24 at 1:43 pm to
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 1:43 pm to
I deserve it. It takes two to fight.
Posted by PapaDunk
Temple
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 1:44 pm to
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I deserve it. It takes two to fight.


Lol…you’re good man. I can appreciate a poster that enjoys a rivalry but still maintains a sense of humility.
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 1:45 pm to
Right back at you, brother.
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 1:49 pm to
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I said the same thing and caught shite for it. TDLR: I don't think it's possible

I actually don't want it for Christmas...that's basically after the season's over. Let's have it on Saturday.
Posted by TexasOnTop
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 1:54 pm to
It's a road game for A&M. History has shown they don't tend to do well on the road. States freshman QB will have started to settle in by then.
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 2:00 pm to
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It's a road game for A&M. History has shown they don't tend to do well on the road. States freshman QB will have started to settle in by then.

That's very true, and we've been especially un-superior to State.

However, we get a bye week, and we've already gotten the road monkey off our backs. Plus, State's FR QB hasn't seen a defense like ours. I can see him getting rattled by our DLine and things spiraling.


Posted by TexasOnTop
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 2:05 pm to
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That's very true, and we've been especially un-superior to State.

However, we get a bye week, and we've already gotten the road monkey off our backs. Plus, State's FR QB hasn't seen a defense like ours. I can see him getting rattled by our DLine and things spiraling.


Should be a good game. I just hope both of our teams are in playoff contention when we meet.
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 2:06 pm to
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 2:27 pm to
A&M traditionally has issues with MSU, but this year MSU is historically terrible. Will be interesting to watch
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 2:42 pm to
GA slept walk against Bama and then lit them up in the 4th
Posted by DawginSC
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 3:11 pm to
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All of that happened, and yet we still outgained them 594-292 in total offense

Do... do you know how football works?


It's not like 2 turnovers is odd for Texas. You had 2 against UL Monroe. 2 against UTSA. 1 against CSU. The only game Texas didn't turn the ball over in was Michigan (where you were +3 in turnover margin).

It's not like UGA where they had no turnovers on the season then coughed it up 4 times in one game against Bama. Texas getting 1-2 turnovers a game isn't an anomaly. It's who they are. You can't use that as an excuse for a disappointing offensive performance if that's who you are, because statistically you're likely to do the same against OU, UGA, Vandy and everyone else you play against.
Posted by TexasOnTop
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 3:22 pm to
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because statistically you're likely to do the same against OU, UGA, Vandy and everyone else you play against.


The cool things about statistics is how you can use the same data as someone else, but draw a different conclusion.

I could just as easily say that because Texas turned the ball over 0 times in their biggest game this season, they are less likely to turn the ball over in big games.

Georgia turned the ball over 4 times in their biggest game this season (against a bad defense). Thus they are more likely to turn the ball over in big games.

See how easy it is to say foolish things when you fail to get past the surface and lack context.
Posted by Victor R Franko
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 3:36 pm to
To all, here is the truth on the Texas vs, MSU game.

Texas committed dumb penalties at critical times. Turnovers, fumbling on drives. Mentally Texas had one foot out the door for the bye week.

However, the concerning item is that Texas couldn't get defensive stops. MSU was able to run on Texas and control the clock while limiting the potent offense. This is how Vanderbilt beat Bama. Fortunately Texas has the horses and depth to beat down MSU by the 4th quarter and took control of the game.
That's what happened. Texas pulled out the win, Bama didn't under similar circumstances.
Posted by aggressor
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 3:43 pm to
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A&M is 3-0 in the SEC and in first place. We don't have to live vicariously through anyone.

Then how do you explain aggies all over every single thread regarding Texas today? Or just your entire school's identity in general?

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Now we have a favorable SEC schedule ahead but there is no easy road. You are about to play 7 straight SEC games and probably the "easiest" is Florida at home.

OK... and?

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You are sitting around excuse making about how you struggled to put away State that likely goes winless in the SEC this year and you played them at DKR.

Who's making excuses? Texas won the game by 3 TDs after outgaining them by 300+ yards? What excuses need to be made?

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Keep talking, let's see how it goes for you.

Very ironic coming from an aggie fanbase that has finished unranked the last 3 seasons after staring each of them in the top 25 (twice as No. 6)


Aggy has a bye this week, not much else to do but look and see what everyone else is doing. A&M has had 3 good tests and passed all 3, no one else can say that. We have 5 more tests to go and it's really, really hard to go run the table in this league (even JFF couldn't do it).

The point is you played one SEC game against the worst team in the SEC and struggled, at home. You can puff your chest about running it up late against State but that impresses no one. Your starters should have been playing early in the 3rd in that game if you wanted to act like you are a new powerhouse.

You have done nothing in the SEC and until you do people will not take you seriously. You are acting like you are Bama and Georgia combined because you rolled in the Big 12 last year and beat State and a Michigan team that will probably go 7-5.

So go roll OU and UGA and then you can start to talk a little smack. Of course you still have 5 more after that as well including a trip to Kyle Field. Personally I think it's more likely you lose 2 plus games than go undefeated looking at who you play and if you lose this weekend it could easily be 4 plus. You already have injury issues and you haven't even played a physical team yet. You will though, several of them.
Posted by HTX Horn
Houston
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 3:55 pm to
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You already have injury issues and you haven't even played a physical team yet. You will though, several of them.


We had injury issues since training camp; lost starting RB and also another RB.

Laughable to say Texas isn't a physical team. Michigan is a very physical team, and most of their defense from last year returned. Also, we did beat Bama on the road last year, which is something. We actually struggled against finesse teams (see game vs. Washington) with tier 1 QB and receivers. Just didn't have the DBs to handle.

I do agree with you that I will not be surprised if we lose a couple of games, but I will also not be surprised if we win them all. The talent is there but as with most teams it's which 17-22 year old kids decide to show up. But if we do lose it won't be because we couldn't handle the physicality of the SEC. Sark has been preparing 3 years for this and was already familiar w what's required in the SEC.
Posted by BZ504
Texas
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 4:07 pm to
A loss to Moo U is much worse than a loss to Vanderbilt this year. Moo U is arse this year.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 4:24 pm to
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The cool things about statistics is how you can use the same data as someone else, but draw a different conclusion.

I could just as easily say that because Texas turned the ball over 0 times in their biggest game this season, they are less likely to turn the ball over in big games.

Georgia turned the ball over 4 times in their biggest game this season (against a bad defense). Thus they are more likely to turn the ball over in big games.

See how easy it is to say foolish things when you fail to get past the surface and lack context.


Unfortunately, your response shows that you don't have a great grasp of statistics.

For statistics to be predictive you have to have some kind of sample size. 1 game (like you're trying to use) is not ever a valid statistical sample size.

Is 5 games enough to be predictive? Well it's closer. It's a third of a football season these days so it has some value.

When you pick out one game, you're not using statistics to determine which results would be outside the standard deviation. Instead you're picking an outlier and trying to pretend that's somehow a statistic.

That's now how it works I'm afraid.

Right now, what statistics show us is the outlier for Texas when it comes to turnovers is Michigan. the outlier for UGA is Bama. What you are doing is taking the same data and NOT using statistical methods on it, instead trying to claim that the result that is the exact OPPOSITE of what statistics would indicate is true is the "real" result.

You can use some other name to define what you're doing. Wishful thinking. Subjective analysis. The eye test. Whatever.

But you can't call it statistical analysis because that's not how that works.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 4:28 pm to
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Laughable to say Texas isn't a physical team. Michigan is a very physical team, and most of their defense from last year returned.


Michigan is 48th in total defense and 56th in scoring defense this year.

Regardless of how good their defense SHOULD be based on returning starters, the teams that are comparable to Michigan this year defensively are teams like Auburn or Maryland.

Posted by Archibald
Member since Apr 2024
1979 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 4:32 pm to
It is very obvious you have not watched a second of Michigan play this year if you are constantly going to trot out that stat without any sort of context

Michigan is a very physical defense, yet the Texas OL made their pro prospect-laden DL look like they were playing paddy cake
Posted by aggressor
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 6:24 pm to
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quote: You already have injury issues and you haven't even played a physical team yet. You will though, several of them. We had injury issues since training camp; lost starting RB and also another RB. Laughable to say Texas isn't a physical team. Michigan is a very physical team, and most of their defense from last year returned. Also, we did beat Bama on the road last year, which is something. We actually struggled against finesse teams (see game vs. Washington) with tier 1 QB and receivers. Just didn't have the DBs to handle. I do agree with you that I will not be surprised if we lose a couple of games, but I will also not be surprised if we win them all. The talent is there but as with most teams it's which 17-22 year old kids decide to show up. But if we do lose it won't be because we couldn't handle the physicality of the SEC. Sark has been preparing 3 years for this and was already familiar w what's required in the SEC.


Once again quit talking about last year. Your team and everyone else has had massive turnover since last year and you played in the Dumpster Fire 12. LOL that this Michigan team is anything like last year. The best players are gone as is the coaching staff, that's why no one cared that you had a Championship rematch with Mich/Wash over the weekend because both teams will be middle of the pack in the B1G this season and are rebuilding.

You haven't done jack shite yet. You also are agreeing with me that you have injury issues. If you think that "you have spent 3 years preparing for the SEC" by playing Texas Tech and UH you have lost your damn mind. Most B12 teams outside of Texas and OU have a handful of 4 Stars and no 5 Stars. Now you get to play big, physical, and talented teams every week. They may be up or they may be down but they have a different class of athletes than you are used to and you already got your easy game out of the way.

So come back after Georgia and let's see where you stand. Then you get 5 more games after that and any of those teams are fully capable of beating you on any given Saturday and 4 of your final 5 have beaten Top 10 teams already that are better than anyone you have played so far.
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