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re: Lutz tragedy likely the result of DUI.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 11:07 pm to NbamaTiger90
Posted on 8/6/14 at 11:07 pm to NbamaTiger90
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In Georgia, public intoxication (or “public drunkenness”) means appearing in an intoxicated condition in a public place
The side of the road is a public place. I said if a driver got pulled over, a drunk passenger can be charged with public intox.
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Posted on 8/6/14 at 11:14 pm to arrakis
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Note this chart:
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Note the "Time", "Weight", and "BAC". Drinks per hour, weight, and resulting BAC.
You stupid POS, this is to obtain the BAC in 1 hour. You are not accounting for the time it takes the body to metabolize the alcohol out of your system.
Let me explain this to you on the really dumb down level. You know his BAC, that is the only number you know.
You have a chart that tells you what it takes to reach that BAC in 1 hour. You are in no way accounting for the time it takes the alcohol to leave your system. You stupid fricking count, you have 1 number in an equation that takes numerous factors to obtain.
Cheers for beating up on a dead guy. You fricking count.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 11:22 pm to NbamaTiger90
Auburn fans justifying this BAC is embarrassing. I'm sure he was a good man that made a bad decision, but Jesus Christ., .377 is like coma level. It's completely irresponsible and unacceptable whether you're the passenger or driver. This is an embarrassing way to go out no matter how you spin it.
It's just unfortunate really. That's the highest number I have ever heard. Just a waste.
It's just unfortunate really. That's the highest number I have ever heard. Just a waste.
This post was edited on 8/6/14 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 8/6/14 at 11:23 pm to Music City Hog
Oh shut the frick up.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 11:27 pm to Music City Hog
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That's the highest number I have ever heard. Just a waste.
Dumbass. There are documented cases that are 4 times his BAC.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 11:29 pm to Slippery Slope
You should change your name to Sassy Slope.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 11:30 pm to NbamaTiger90
Sad really. It sucks that such a good guys legacy will forever be ruined. I feel for the family.
This post was edited on 8/6/14 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 8/6/14 at 11:33 pm to Music City Hog
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Dumbass. There are documented cases that are 4 times his BAC.
Oh awesome, well he had so much further to go.
You can't be serious right now?
Posted on 8/6/14 at 11:34 pm to Music City Hog
Why is his legacy ruined? He got fricked up. Why does that change any good he did?
Posted on 8/6/14 at 11:35 pm to Music City Hog
It's a tragedy but his legacy is most definitely not "ruined" and certainly not for forever. Great people make mistakes and getting hammered at age 23 is a pretty common one to make. That doesn't take a single thing away from the legacy that Lutzenkirchen left of being a great Christian man and one of the most humble people you could meet.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 11:38 pm to NbamaTiger90
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Why is his legacy ruined? He got fricked up. Why does that change any good he did?
Oh it doesn't undo any good he did. But in the future when people bring up his name they won't say "remember all the good he did". They will say "dude was really wasted".
I'm sure Len Bias did plenty of good things but nobody you know can name a single one. We just know he died of a cocaine overdose. That's Lutz's legacy now. It sucks and isn't fair but it is reality.
This doesn't apply to AU fans, but it does to the rest of the college football world.
This post was edited on 8/6/14 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 8/6/14 at 11:42 pm to Music City Hog
So your view of people relies solely on the opinion of others.
Bow out now you coward. You refuse to to judge a man/woman on their accomplishments.
Bow out now you coward. You refuse to to judge a man/woman on their accomplishments.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 11:43 pm to Music City Hog
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But in the future when people bring up his name they won't say "remember all the good he did"
I think you're wrong about that. He wasn't the one driving. He was wasted and made a mistake getting in the car with somebody who was less drunk. He got drunk at age 23 and a terrible tragedy happened. It is what it is and it could have happened to almost anybody at that age. If anybody thinks any less of his life because of that then that's just sad.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 11:56 pm to BowlJackson
Ok fellas. I guess time will tell the legacy of Lutz. Auburn fans will always worship him which is ok and expected. The rest, well, they will eventually forget altogether I guess.
The whole thing is unfortunate. He was way too young to die. Having said that, the perception and circumstances are different now that we know he was a .377. They just are. You can say "he was just a passenger" all you want. He wasn't capable of driving had he wanted to. .4 is like death range. Getting yourself to .377 is irresponsible and unacceptable even if you're sitting on your couch all night.
I feel sorry for his family. This is like a second wave of grieving haven gotten this new info. They have had enough. I can't imagine losing a child.
The whole thing is unfortunate. He was way too young to die. Having said that, the perception and circumstances are different now that we know he was a .377. They just are. You can say "he was just a passenger" all you want. He wasn't capable of driving had he wanted to. .4 is like death range. Getting yourself to .377 is irresponsible and unacceptable even if you're sitting on your couch all night.
I feel sorry for his family. This is like a second wave of grieving haven gotten this new info. They have had enough. I can't imagine losing a child.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:05 am to Music City Hog
So if you had no knowledge of his BAC, he would still be a saint in your book? He had no accountability in the determining factor of the wreck. Yet in your reasoning he is responsible for the outcome of the tragedy based off of his BAC. Please never be on a jury, people like you let Casey Anthony types go free.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:15 am to NbamaTiger90
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So if you had no knowledge of his BAC, he would still be a saint in your book? He had no accountability in the determining factor of the wreck. Yet in your reasoning he is responsible for the outcome of the tragedy based off of his BAC. Please never be on a jury, people like you let Casey Anthony types go free.
Well you asked several things. First, had I not known his BAC then id have never known his BAC so yes, I'd have likely thought differently of him. Not to compare the two, but as an example, I'd have prob thought differently of OJ had I not known he killed two people.
I didn't say he was responsible for the outcome. I said he was incredibly irresponsible. One could definitely argue that at .377, he was in no state to determine who he should not get in a car with. I'm sure .17 seems sober to a .377.
If I were on a jury, I'd determine that two people got ridiculously drunk to the point that they couldn't make reasonable decisions anymore. It's a tragedy that they lost their lives but a small miracle they hurt nobody else...thankfully.
The real enlightenment is that you're defending any of this. It's flat out irresponsible. There is no way to say .377 is ok under any circumstances.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:41 am to Music City Hog
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Auburn fans justifying this BAC is embarrassing. I'm sure he was a good man that made a bad decision, but Jesus Christ., .377 is like coma level. It's completely irresponsible and unacceptable whether you're the passenger or driver. This is an embarrassing way to go out no matter how you spin it.
You're a piece of shite. Everybody drinks, way to talk about a dead 24 year old like this is sad.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:01 am to Music City Hog
I don't believe anyone is saying he made a responsible decision, or that binge drinking is acceptable. I don't understand your need to continually repeat yourself. Mistakes usually require unacceptable behavior/decisions. But if binge drinking is the worst thing he did, and that's enough to wipe away 23 years of peer respect and good deeds, I am definitely going to hell in the express lane.
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 1:02 am
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:26 am to Music City Hog
You're an idiot. Nobody is defending anything. All we are saying is that everybody makes mistakes. Did Lutz show poor judgement that night? Absolutely. Everybody does stupid irresponsible things when they are young. Everybody is guilty of having a little too much to drink at some point in their lives. Unfortunately tragedies like this are all too common with young people and to say that it ruins his legacy and he will be remembered as a drunk is just ridiculous. Anybody that thinks that way needs to step off their high horse and take a deep look in the mirror. This is something that could have easily happened to almost anybody at some point when they were young. Anybody is capable of making one bad decision and ending up dead, and to define that person based on that one decision is stupid.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 7:43 am to BowlJackson
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You're an idiot. Nobody is defending anything. All we are saying is that everybody makes mistakes. Did Lutz show poor judgement that night? Absolutely. Everybody does stupid irresponsible things when they are young. Everybody is guilty of having a little too much to drink at some point in their lives. Unfortunately tragedies like this are all too common with young people and to say that it ruins his legacy and he will be remembered as a drunk is just ridiculous. Anybody that thinks that way needs to step off their high horse and take a deep look in the mirror. This is something that could have easily happened to almost anybody at some point when they were young. Anybody is capable of making one bad decision and ending up dead, and to define that person based on that one decision is stupid.
I completely agree. Could have been me or you or anyone else. It's sad. Sucks to lose someone that young
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