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re: Kiper says Tyler Wilson would be #3 QB draft prospect this year

Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:13 pm to
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:13 pm to
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honestly with Chavis and Saban/Smart, yes I do.




No, sorry. They would not be dominant. You think the 4/5* guys simply start over the lower rated guys because of their ranking out of high school or the fact they are better players in general usually? Going through our Top 11 defensive players...

DE Montgomery - 4*
DT Logan - 3*
DT Brockers - 4*
DE Mingo - 4*
MLB Minter - 4*
OLB Baker - 4*
CB Claiborne - 3*
CB Mathieu - 4*
CB Simon - 4*
S Taylor - 4*
S Reid - 4*
Posted by 870Hog
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:15 pm to
I thought Mathieu was a 3*

Just going off what I read a long time ago and I'm to lazy to google.

ETA: thats not a shot at him, was actually thinking Les pulled a gem outta the air.
This post was edited on 1/8/12 at 5:17 pm
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:16 pm to
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Actually his argument was saying the longer Petrino developes players the better they get...



He said the classes have declined since 2009 but said the wins have increased citing I guess recruiting rankings don't really matter. He was clearly talking about the lesser rated classes not mattering, if they don't matter, then I guess the majority of the players this year and last were from those classes.
This post was edited on 1/8/12 at 5:17 pm
Posted by Latarian
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:16 pm to
oh ok so that means Petrino is a better coach than Miles because he actually has to develop his players as opposed to being handed superior talent?

sounds good.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:18 pm to
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I thought Mathieu was a 3*


2* that bloomed into a 4* after some camps.

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Posted by 870Hog
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:19 pm to
Ahh, I see.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:19 pm to
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oh ok so that means Petrino is a better coach than Miles because he actually has to develop his players as opposed to being handed superior talent?

sounds good.


If that's what you want to tell yourself to sleep better at night

But no, that's not what I was saying at all, good try though.
This post was edited on 1/8/12 at 5:20 pm
Posted by Latarian
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:25 pm to
your recruits get LSU/Bama bumps anyway, ours get the Hog drop when they commit to us.

Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:25 pm to
Lulz Rivals is garbage now. But whatever makes your point I guess.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:26 pm to
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your recruits get LSU/Bama bumps anyway, ours get the Hog drop when they commit to us.




I guess they're doing something right then considering the defensive difference between LSU/Bama and Arkansas
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:28 pm to
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Lulz Rivals is garbage now. But whatever makes your point I guess.




It's still better than 247. 247 doesn't have several team websites up yet, they have not arrived with the big boys quite yet. Like I said though, they are rising fast and in a couple years should be the best as they get a full recruiting service site up and running with even more scouts out there. We all realize Pig fans are using 247 because simply put, it's what makes your class look best right now.
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:29 pm to
The difference comes down to in-state talent. Anyone who doesn't acknowledge that is ignorant.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:31 pm to
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It's still better than 247. 247 doesn't have several team websites up yet, they have not arrived with the big boys quite yet. Like I said though, they are rising fast and in a couple years should be the best as they get a full recruiting service site up and running with even more scouts out there. We all realize Pig fans are using 247 because simply put, it's what makes your class look best right now.

Sorry man but Rivals has gone way downhill. People still flock to it because it's the most user friendly and that is it. Go ask the recruiting boards what is the best site out there right now and 90% of the people who regularly follow recruiting will tell you 24/7.

Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:31 pm to
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The difference comes down to in-state talent. Anyone who doesn't acknowledge that is ignorant.



Petrino and Hog fans still didn't use this excuse in 2009 when he signed 9 4/5* players, 7 from out of state.
Posted by TheOtherWhiteMeat
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:32 pm to
Hate to break it to you man, but they're right, Rivals is crap. And BTW, Scout actually has us at 16 right now and no one is trying to use them in the argument. 247 is the best out there right now.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:34 pm to
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Sorry man but Rivals has gone way downhill. People still flock to it because it's the most user friendly and that is it. Go ask the recruiting boards what is the best site out there right now and 90% of the people who regularly follow recruiting will tell you 24/7.


I know the guy who runs one of the sites over at 247 and he even would tell you they are not at the capacity of Rivals quite yet. Rivals is going down, but it's still above 247 currently. Once again, 247 still doesn't even have a lot of team sites up and running.

And on this website rivals is still quoted way more than any other service.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:34 pm to
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Hate to break it to you man, but they're right, Rivals is crap. And BTW, Scout actually has us at 16 right now and no one is trying to use them in the argument


They also have a guy committed to you that isn't.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:35 pm to
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Latarian


Clicked on page 10 only to be graced by your new avatar, which is one of the greatest things these eyes have ever seen.

edit: just read your tagline, you're frickin killing it today.
This post was edited on 1/8/12 at 5:38 pm
Posted by Latarian
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:38 pm to
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Petrino and Hog fans still didn't use this excuse in 2009 when he signed 9 4/5* players, 7 from out of state.



it's not an excuse it's fact, anyone who disagrees (Hog fans included) is a dumbass.

and that stat proved my point, he had to go out of state to get those 7 players and of those 7 4 * players:

Crim (JUCO)
Knile Davis (not offered by Texas aka his homestate school)
DD Jones (not offered by instate LSU)
Anthony Leon (JUCO)
Austin Moss (not offered by any Texas schools)
Anthony Oden (JUCO)
Ronnie Wingo (picked us over home state Mizzou)

See the trend here? We can get out of state 4* guys but in most cases one of the reasons we get them is they weren't offered by their in-state school.
Posted by Latarian
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:39 pm to
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Stonehog


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