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re: Jermaine Burton Assaults Female Tennessee Fan

Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:13 pm to
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:13 pm to
If you scroll down in the comments there is another video of him hitting the guy taking that video. Again, it wasn't a full on punch but it made the phone shake and everyone around moved back from Burton. I'd bet that was right before the video in the OP because there was a decent cushion around Burton at the start of the original video.

Not a good look at all.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36777 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:17 pm to
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I think we should approach it as if it were a tort case. Should she have been on the field? Debatable.

Is there a reasonable expectation that getting on the field will result in a player willfully hitting you in the head? Absolutely not. And if you say yes then you're saying that it's not atypical for the players to act this way after taking an L.



Interesting I guess. But is it a reasonable expectation that you will at some point be met with force for being on the field? For example, someone who streaks on the field is often met with a good bit of physical force.

Where is the line and how much force is acceptable?

For the record, I don't think there is any excuse for hitting her if he did. I'm just questioning the line of reasoning. If what he did was actually a hit, it was not in self defense, but rather a response etc and I don't see where it's really excusable.


Posted by Logician
Grinning Colonizer
Member since Jul 2013
4912 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:17 pm to
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You can’t admit she put herself at risk. I can admit burton is A POS.

That’s the difference between a poster who sucks at reading, as you are proving, and a reasonable person.

Dear Reasonable Person,

There's a stickied thread on the OT right now about a girl who was shot to death in her car. It fits all the descriptors you have for how it was her fault: early in the morning, not so great area of town, shouldn't have let herself be stopped by a train, shouldn't have been eating french fries and instead watching her six with her head on a swivel. Go in there and post your same "take all responsibility" hot take to all those dumbass millenials.

You won't.
Posted by Jumpinjack
Member since Oct 2021
6485 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:19 pm to
You just might be the dumbest individual to ever post.
Posted by Starkvingard
Polanco, Mexico
Member since Aug 2021
284 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:20 pm to
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Where is the line and how much force is acceptable?


She should expect to crowds pushing, people tripping, bumping into you pretty hard, shoving, etc. But again, willfully hitting someone in the head is malicious behavior not associated with crowd movement.
Posted by ScoggDog
SE Indiana
Member since Aug 2020
3745 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:23 pm to
quote:

But is it a reasonable expectation that you will at some point be met with force for being on the field? For example, someone who streaks on the field is often met with a good bit of physical force. Where is the line and how much force is acceptable?


Then at what point is it acceptable for a fan to pull out a shiv and stick it between the players ribs ? Since, after all, a certain amount of force is now acceptable. And we're talking about great big ball players with armor.

Or, again, is the ball-field "holy ground" ? Only to be trod upon by those blessed and sanctified to do so ?
Posted by Logician
Grinning Colonizer
Member since Jul 2013
4912 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:25 pm to
from the guy who had this gem today:

https://www.secrant.com/rant/display.aspx?sp=104871226&s=2&p=104870105#104871226

Willy holds a mirror to your fan's antics, and with hours to come up with a response, "you're retarded huuurrr" is the best you can do
Posted by warcry
Mobile
Member since Aug 2011
4781 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:26 pm to
Anyone shocked? Trashy fans support trashy players
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47282 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:33 pm to
"3down10" is continually angry that he is too illiterate to create a screen name that actually makes sense
Posted by Jumpinjack
Member since Oct 2021
6485 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:38 pm to
The short bus is filling up.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36777 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:38 pm to
quote:



She should expect to crowds pushing, people tripping, bumping into you pretty hard, shoving, etc. But again, willfully hitting someone in the head is malicious behavior not associated with crowd movement.


Streakers get hit pretty hard sometimes. Do mass violations change the circumstances of what is reasonable to expect?

AKA, if I step onto a top secret military base, I can reasonably expect to be arrested or shot. But if I step onto a top secret military base with 500 other people, does that mean it's reasonable for me to expect lesser treatment?


Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36777 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:39 pm to
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"3down10" is continually angry that he is too illiterate to create a screen name that actually makes sense




It makes sense to an entire group of people you have no clue even exist.

Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
49764 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:39 pm to
Are you claiming that Neyland is a top secret military base
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47282 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:39 pm to
quote:

Murph4HOF



Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:40 pm to
Lol worst poster on the board.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36777 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

Are you claiming that Neyland is a top secret military base



If I told you, I'd have to kill you.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
49764 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:43 pm to
I get it
Posted by Fbohn1
Member since Jun 2009
326 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:47 pm to
Is this the other angle? She runs up to him with phone in hand, and he reaches out and smacks it… therefore explaining her “Wtf” reaction, and not her “OMG I was just assaulted reaction?

LINK
Posted by ClintStoerner
Member since Oct 2011
489 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:50 pm to
Nope, that was a separate incident
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36777 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:52 pm to
quote:

Is this the other angle? She runs up to him with phone in hand, and he reaches out and smacks it… therefore explaining her “Wtf” reaction, and not her “OMG I was just assaulted reaction?

LINK


That's someone else. That one is not a big deal IMO.

The other one is more of a big deal because whatever he did, it was done after she was moving away(which is also why I think he just reached out, rather than hit, she was behind him). He's not protecting his space or anything in that case.

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