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re: Is this the greatest BAMA dynasty?
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:21 pm to Bmath
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:21 pm to Bmath
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Winning isn't enough for bama fans. They have to turn everything into a circle jerk that involves spitting on anyone that ever stood in their way.
Meh. Sorry people are bothered by some internet chest-pumping about your team winning 3 out of the last 4 national championships. I'm sure all other fanbases would act with the utmost humility in this situation. Probably wouldn't even talk about it at all. Particularly when people consistently try say you just lucked into this unprecedented BCS era run.
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Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:24 pm to elposter
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I'm sure all other fanbases would act with the utmost humility in this situation.
Would your fanbase act any different than LSU's does if they were in their shoes?
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:26 pm to Jrv2damac
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Would your fanbase act any different than LSU's does if they were in their shoes?
We would still claim NC. That is what we do.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:27 pm to Jrv2damac
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Would your fanbase act any different than LSU's does if they were in their shoes?
That's a good question. As a whole? Probably not. SEC fanbases by and large act the same and just adjust to their current situation.
It makes sense that the LSU fanbase is by and large the leader of the "down play Alabama's success" crowd since they have probably been directly negatively affected by it more than any other team.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:34 pm to Alabamya
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We would still claim NC. That is what we do.
This is the crap I am talking about.
It gets said enough that the bama collective seemingly believes it.
Bama literally claims titles that have no merit. But it doesn't matter because you keep adding to the pile.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:42 pm to Bmath
And this bothers you why?
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:42 pm to elposter
quote:This AND the fact that Nick is the master behind the Bama success naturally rubs the butt cheeks of the LSU fanbase raw.
It makes sense that the LSU fanbase is by and large the leader of the "down play Alabama's success" crowd since they have probably been directly negatively affected by it more than any other team.
I can't say I'd act any differently than the LSU's have acted if the shoes were on the other foot.
Hell, I'd blame the refs/TTownMens/SEC office/scheduling/NCAA-Emmert/oversigning/REC if I had to watch a former Bama coach run up 3 out of 4 at another school.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:43 pm to elposter
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Meh. Sorry people are bothered by some internet chest-pumping about your team winning 3 out of the last 4 national championships. I'm sure all other fanbases would act with the utmost humility in this situation. Probably wouldn't even talk about it at all.
It's not just the internet. Congrats on the wins, the mulligans, etc. It's not all luck, obviously UA fields a quality squad. In my experience little has changed with this group from 08-13. It's less the bragging, it's the apparent need for confirmation of unquestioned greatness.
Bama also has a different mentality. Personally I can only compare it to Nebraska in the 90s. That's the group think, and unbridled loyalty to a leader and the idea of the football team. That's why it works so well with Saban. He need's unquestioned authority and he has a fan base that will give it.
Look at little things like the statues to coaches, nothing for players. In 11 the kicker was blamed, not Saban for putting him in the position to fail. It's much like the behavior of the masses subjected to a multi-generational dictatorship.
Does the success make the behavior, or is the fan base? Nature or nurture. Little bit of both, IMO. You wouldn't see that at LSU, A&M, or a few other places, IMO.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:45 pm to Bmath
quote:Yeah, it's gotten to the point now where it doesn't matter whether claimed titles from the 1940's have merit or not. It's "what have you done for me lately" - and lately the trophies are stackin up nicely.
Bama literally claims titles that have no merit. But it doesn't matter because you keep adding to the pile.
This post was edited on 7/10/13 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:52 pm to Vlad The Inhaler
quote:Saban has created a monster. He gets paid handsomely to keep feeding that monster.
It's not just the internet. Congrats on the wins, the mulligans, etc. It's not all luck, obviously UA fields a quality squad. In my experience little has changed with this group from 08-13. It's less the bragging, it's the apparent need for confirmation of unquestioned greatness.
Bama also has a different mentality. Personally I can only compare it to Nebraska in the 90s. That's the group think, and unbridled loyalty to a leader and the idea of the football team. That's why it works so well with Saban. He need's unquestioned authority and he has a fan base that will give it.
Look at little things like the statues to coaches, nothing for players. In 11 the kicker was blamed, not Saban for putting him in the position to fail. It's much like the behavior of the masses subjected to a multi-generational dictatorship.
Does the success make the behavior, or is the fan base? Nature or nurture. Little bit of both, IMO. You wouldn't see that at LSU, A&M, or a few other places, IMO.
To make the statement that the "little things like statues to coaches, nothing for players" is just wrong. Those players get a free education, they get prime-time TV exposure to showcase their talents, many of them (hell a large portion) get NFL contracts. And those that don't go pro have the opportunity to get a quality education for FREE. The players get recognized, they get praised, and they get paid with a scholarship to play for one of the best college coaches in the buisness.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:52 pm to Alabamya
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And this bothers you why?
Oh I don't know. Perhaps because it is dishonest.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:53 pm to Bmath
We should rename or football team to the Alabama Crimson Kingpins.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:58 pm to Bmath
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Oh I don't know. Perhaps because it is dishonest.
But ,how does it truely affect you to the point you are bitching about it on a message board??
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:59 pm to Vlad The Inhaler
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It's less the bragging, it's the apparent need for confirmation of unquestioned greatness.
It's basically just bragging, like anyone else would do. I think you are making more out of it then it really is. It is starting to become a valid question as to where this current run ranks against other runs in Alabama and college football history. Sorry if that bothers you, it's really not that big a deal. Just something to talk about during the offseason.
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Look at little things like the statues to coaches, nothing for players.
Alabama honors and memorializes players in a big way, not sure what you are talking about "nothing for the players." The statues for NC winning coaches is a nice nod to them in my opinion.
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In 11 the kicker was blamed, not Saban for putting him in the position to fail.
I blamed Saban big time for that game. Most people thought the gameplan was one of his worst. By and large though, it's hard to find too much to complain about given the results.
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It's much like the behavior of the masses subjected to a multi-generational dictatorship.
Over-dramatize much? Believe me, if Saban's teams start sucking, Bama fans will treat him like they treated other coaches who started sucking (even Bryant believe it or not).
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You wouldn't see that at LSU
Maybe not, but if Miles led the team to 3 of 4 of the next national championships, I think you'd be surprised at the GOAT mentality your fans would display.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:59 pm to FourThreeForty
Every team in America is jealous of BAMA and it feels so good. It's not a circle jerk, it's just superiority, we know it and you know it. Deal with it. 4 out of 5 sounds real good right now.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 5:04 pm to jbrookshomes
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BAMA
Is this the result of a recent memo from corporate on branding?
Posted on 7/10/13 at 5:05 pm to Vlad The Inhaler
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That's it. I'm taking my talents to the "Luckiest program in all of college football: Alabama", thread.
You need to take your talents to "I'm making fun of a dynasty because my school I cheer for has never experienced such a thing thread". OR kill yourself.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 5:29 pm to Alabamya
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But ,how does it truely affect you to the point you are bitching about it on a message board??
Classic bama deflection tactic: Poster uses actual facts to discredit something bama did. Bama posters call said fans names or complain that they are always bitching.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 5:30 pm to Bmath
it's not that far from the truth though....LSU fans do.....bitch...about....everything.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 5:31 pm to thatdude1985
When did you graduate, son?
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