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re: Is the Kevin Steele hire the Lane Kiffin hire of 2015?

Posted on 10/22/15 at 9:28 am to
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 9:28 am to
Still seeking validation. Keep looking and good luck, you'll need it.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34324 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 9:29 am to
The word "undefeated" is kind of self validating, don't you think?
Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
10858 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 9:30 am to
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West Virginia says hi.


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Auburn fan



LSU could've put up at least 70 on auburn
Posted by Gr8t8s
Member since Oct 2009
2585 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 9:30 am to
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The word "undefeated" is kind of self validating, don't you think?



Only when that word comes after about 14 games or so.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 9:37 am to
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The word "undefeated" is kind of self validating


In your case, fleeting. It's obvious that this atmospheric pressure is not something you are accustomed to.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16112 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 9:39 am to
TBD.

The LSU defense has looked pretty good thus far, but you're also just now getting to the meat of your schedule. To date, you've not faced a single offense currently in the NCAA top 50 for total offense.

Thus far ( Total Offense Rank)
Mississippi State (52)
Auburn (97)
Syracuse (110)
Eastern Michigan (63)
South Carolina (98)
Florida (86)

But that's about to change

Upcoming
Western Kentucky (9)
Alabama (47)
Arkansas (45)
Ole Miss (11)
Texas A&M (31)

If at the end of that run, the LSU defense is still performing at the same level then yes, it was a very good hire.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25723 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 9:41 am to
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It was so refreshing not giving up a touchdown on the final two drives of the Florida game.


Treon Harris really knows how to drive the football down field with his arm in key moments of games. Great accomplishment stopping him.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34324 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 9:42 am to
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Only when that word comes after about 14 games or so.


Too bad Bama can't even say it after 7 games.
Posted by BayouBengal6884
Lafourche Parish
Member since Dec 2013
618 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:03 am to
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Hell, points don't even matter




....what?
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:06 am to
Kevin Steele is the worst DC in football.

LSU players are playing from memory of Chavis.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
87858 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:07 am to
Steele has doe a much better job than I expected, especially given the poor job his predecessor did.
Posted by LSUANDY25
Frisco
Member since Dec 2012
3087 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:20 am to
Kiffen was the only guy Saban could find and vice versa. If two aholes ever needed each other, it was these two but they still cant get along. LOL. Seems to be another change at OC looming in Gumpville.

A&M got an inside look at the LSU program with the Chavis hire. Miles is getting an inside look at the Gumps, Steele can recruit with the best of them and is good friends with Chavis. This was an easy transition and a good fit.
Saban's was a thank goodness SC fired Kiffen, he needs a job and i can talk him into standing on the sidelines with my control freak self.
Who is in the Alabama box these days?
This post was edited on 10/22/15 at 10:22 am
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50703 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:26 am to
It's still way too early to evaluate the hire.

The secondary has been an issue at times, but it seems to mostly be breakdowns when switching to zone coverage. That can be caused by the new terminology and checks not being completely grasped by the players yet. I'm holding out hope that is the issue.

The linebackers have been better than they ever were under Chavis. That is just a fact and I expect it to continue to improve under Steele, seeing as he's a LB guy.

The defensive line has been leaps and bounds better than it has since 2011, and that's with limited depth. Steele and Orgeron have done a great job there.

Overall, the scheme is VERY similar to Chavis' with a few wrinkles. Steele gets more creative with blitzes and mixes in more zone coverage. Hopefully with more time in the system the secondary can clean up the breakdowns and the Dline and LBs will continue to improve.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17772 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:36 am to
I will say under Steele the defense is actually able to make key stops when they need to.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7156 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:47 am to
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It's still way too early to evaluate the hire.

The secondary has been an issue at times, but it seems to mostly be breakdowns when switching to zone coverage. That can be caused by the new terminology and checks not being completely grasped by the players yet. I'm holding out hope that is the issue.

The linebackers have been better than they ever were under Chavis. That is just a fact and I expect it to continue to improve under Steele, seeing as he's a LB guy.

The defensive line has been leaps and bounds better than it has since 2011, and that's with limited depth. Steele and Orgeron have done a great job there.

Overall, the scheme is VERY similar to Chavis' with a few wrinkles. Steele gets more creative with blitzes and mixes in more zone coverage. Hopefully with more time in the system the secondary can clean up the breakdowns and the Dline and LBs will continue to improve.


THIS. Anybody who's been watching the last 7 seasons (Chavis arrived in 09) of LSU football closely knows this to be true. If the secondary mistakes are shored up it's going to be a lethal unit for the foreseeable future.
Posted by NGATiger
Member since Dec 2013
3044 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 11:17 am to
I don't need validation, I like the results on the field so far for the most part.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 11:21 am to
I'm just glad he isn't our LB coach anymore.
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32656 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 11:24 am to
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let their old OC walk


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we did the same with our old DC



Ha. Didn't Chief turn your offer down?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 11:28 am to
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Thoughts?

Yes, you should have waited until the end of the season to draw conclusions/parallels - or at least until LSU has faced some stronger offensive teams - or at least until Monday, after LSU plays the 3rd rated passing offense in NCAA.
Posted by gatortrav88
Member since Oct 2014
3807 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 11:28 am to
You do realize you got a lot of tough games left right

All Steele has to do is give up the game winner to Bama not hard to do lol

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