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re: Is LSU the dirtest athletic program in the SEC
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:09 pm to joshua2571
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:09 pm to joshua2571
Is water wet? Is the sky blue? Why ask such stupidly obvious questions?
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:10 pm to secuniversity
SOL reads by the violation itself not since the player was enrolled.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:11 pm to secuniversity
Also why don't you tell us what you reasonably expect will happen to LSU over this and why.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:13 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Okay then tell me what you think will happen to LSU over this?
Not sure, it will depend greatly on if the guy is a booster and if it can be shown that the money was used for recruiting players etc.
If he is found to be a booster and if they think the money was to do with recruiting, then you can expect to lose a bunch of scholarships for a few years, get bowl banned etc.
It won't even matter if the school itself and members are found at fault. If that guy is a booster, then he is considered part of LSU.
It's exactly how Alabama got fricked over Albert Means, so just go look it up.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:13 pm to 3down10
quote:Alabama cheats so bad they even cheated when it came to getting stipends from the NCAA. They drastically inflated tuition cost, it’s not by accident Alabama gets more money on stipends Than any other program in the SEC
They also get their stipend pay out another 5grand on top of that
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:16 pm to Draconian Sanctions
No. The eligibility of the player. Also this would also fall under the exception clauses.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:17 pm to broadcaster
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Alabama cheats so bad they even cheated when it came to getting stipends from the NCAA. They drastically inflated tuition cost, it’s not by accident Alabama gets more money on stipends Than any other program in the SEC
This is the fricktard LSU shite I love.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:19 pm to secuniversity
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No. The eligibility of the player.
That's not how the SOL reads
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Also this would also fall under the exception clauses.
you don't have anything to base that on.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:21 pm to broadcaster
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Alabama gets more money on stipends Than any other program in the SEC
Alabama is 3rd in the SEC in COA stipends.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:21 pm to 3down10
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It's exactly how Alabama got fricked over Albert Means, so just go look it up.
I remember it well. Even if they a) find him to be a booster, b) find the payment to be impermissible benefit and c) find it within the SOL we aren't on probation right now so it wouldn't be that bad.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:31 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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I remember it well. Even if they a) find him to be a booster, b) find the payment to be impermissible benefit and c) find it within the SOL we aren't on probation right now so it wouldn't be that bad.
Well we already know it's within the SOL or they wouldn't be looking into it at all right? There is an actual inqury right now I'm pretty sure I read.
And was Alabama on probation? I don't remember that. I know the Langham thing was long over by then, and it was shortened anyway.
I have shitty memory, so maybe Alabama was on probation, but I don't remember it that way.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:33 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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Correct. His last year was in 2015. The money was sent outside of the statute of limitations. You're trying to argue that the staute of limitations begins when LSU self reported what could potentially be a violation in 2018.
That isn't how it works.
No, I'm arguing the NCAA doesn't care what you think about the SOL. They have a clause that removes that. And they have used it recently.
The money was sent WHILE Alexander was at LSU.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:33 pm to 3down10
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Well we already know it's within the SOL or they wouldn't be looking into it at all right?
The dates of the payments haven't been made public so no, we don't
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And was Alabama on probation? I don't remember that. I know the Langham thing was long over by then, and it was shortened anyway.
I have shitty memory, so maybe Alabama was on probation, but I don't remember it that way.
Bama was definitely on probation
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:34 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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So late 2018 sets it at late 2014. Vadal played at LSU from 2012-2015.
And again y’all are continuing to assume the NCAA will consider this impermissible benefit re: Vadal which we don’t know will happen.
"willful violators" clause DOES APPLY.
Period.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:35 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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The dates of the payments haven't been made public so no, we don't
The article I read stated they happened while he was at the school.
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Bama was definitely on probation
For what?
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:39 pm to 3down10
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The article I read stated they happened while he was at the school.
Yes but 3 of the 4 seasons he played was outside the SOL, which reads as from the date of the violation.
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For what?
i don't remember exactly, just remember that as part of the reporting and that the Means incident itself was the last straw for the infractions committee. There had been other things besides Langham.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:40 pm to Jjdoc
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"willful violators" clause DOES APPLY.
Period.
It does eh? Do you work for the NCAA, or are you just talking out of your arse?
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:43 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Yes but 3 of the 4 seasons he played was outside the SOL, which reads as from the date of the violation.
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Sweet Jesus!
Again... willful violators clause says SCREW your SOL.
The NCAA's four-year statute of limitations doesn't apply when they (NCAA) decides they want to go deeper.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:43 pm to 3down10
It wasn't probation it was the repeat violator clause.
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Because it was Alabama's fourth case before the NCAA in 14 years, it was a repeat violator that made it eligible for the death penalty that would have shut down the program.
The NCAA has done that only once, at SMU in 1987.
Yeager told Dodd told that Alabama would have gotten the death penalty if it hadn't been for Gene Marsh and Marie Robbins.
Marsh, a prominent attorney, was a University of Alabama law professor and the school's faculty athletics representative. Robbins was the school's compliance director trying to get her arms around the mess.
"Gene and Marie did everything they could, short of patrolling the campus with semi-automatic weapons," Yeager told Dodd. "That, at the end of the day, is what saved them.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:44 pm to Jjdoc
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The NCAA's four-year statute of limitations doesn't apply when they (NCAA) decides they want to go deeper.
I mean okay but there's no reason to believe that will happen here. As of now we know about 1 alleged violation, not 15 or whatever Ole Miss was charged with.
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