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re: Is Georgia good at football?

Posted on 4/28/21 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 2:04 pm to
Not bad when saban is in the sec.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 2:08 pm to
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Nearly


Do you really think you are proving it’s easy? Because you didn’t. Instead, you proved how much luck is involved. Good work.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 2:12 pm to
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Do you really think you are proving it’s easy? Because you didn’t. Instead, you proved how much luck is involved. Good work.


It's "luck" that that many teams some of them multiple times have won a NC?

What kind of Georgia logic is that? "Luck" isn't the answer for your failures. Look around you almost all your rivals have one since 1980.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 2:15 pm to
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Nearly every school surrounding Georgia has won a NC since you last won one (some of them have done it multiple times)
Good for them, but this is just another way of alluding to how easy it is to win one, and it's not.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 2:21 pm to
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Good for them, but this is just another way of alluding to how easy it is to win one, and it's not.


Georgia simply isn't a National Championship caliber program. 1980 is very real and it isn't going to change. You hired a guy that is a carbon copy of your last guy that you fired for not being able to win a National Championship. In fact the guy you hired (Kirby) won more with the last guys (Richt) lower rated recruits than his own higher rated recruits. What does that tell us?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 2:28 pm to
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It's "luck" that that many teams some of them multiple times have won a NC?


Most of the examples involved luck just to get a MNC shot, yet you don’t seem to even know it. It’s as if you don’t have a strong recollection of football history.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 2:35 pm to
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Most of the examples involved luck just to get a MNC shot, yet you don’t seem to even know it. It’s as if you don’t have a strong recollection of football history.


"luck" isn't the reason for your rivals successes and Georgia's failures. You can keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better but it isn't reality.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 2:43 pm to
Only a person who struggles with memories and/or basic understanding of CFB can claim luck hasn’t played a role in most of these.

Compare uga 2002 with LSU 2003 for instance. Tell me what you remember about those teams and their MNC shots. What made the difference?
Posted by ronricks
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 2:51 pm to
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Compare uga 2002 with LSU 2003 for instance. Tell me what you remember about those teams and their MNC shots. What made the difference?


2003 LSU beat Georgia twice

It wasn't "luck" that LSU went 13-1 and beat OU in the National Championship Game.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 2:57 pm to
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2003 LSU beat Georgia twice


What? LSU 2003 did not play uga 2002 even once, much less twice. It’s literally impossible for such a thing to occur.

(This is going to take forever if you are struggling this badly with such a basic example.)

So, again, why did only one of these 2 teams get a mnc shot?
This post was edited on 4/28/21 at 2:59 pm
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 3:05 pm to
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Look around you almost all your rivals have one since 1980.


They added UofSC as a rival so they could have a rival that doesn’t
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 3:39 pm to
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In fact, Kirby did better with Richt's leftover players than he has done with his own recruits.


Is that so? A strong argument can be made that our 2018 team was better than our 2017 team when comparing the regular season plus bama championship games.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 3:58 pm to
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Georgia simply isn't a National Championship caliber program.
Most programs aren't National Championship caliber programs until they win one, and even then, the programs may go in and out of that distinction over time. There are few programs out there today that are consistently in contention for the playoffs, and UGA is one of them. Will that mean we will win it? No, but no one is guaranteed a win because it's not easy.

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1980 is very real and it isn't going to change.
Do you know the future? It's fun to poke fun at fans but "1980" isn't a rational argument. It's typically used as a red herring to distract from the conversation rather than add to it and what happened in 1980 has no bearing on whether or not a team will win a championship in 2021.

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You hired a guy that is a carbon copy of your last guy that you fired for not being able to win a National Championship.
You know how I know you haven't been paying attention to UGA football?

Smart is not a carbon copy of Richt.

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In fact the guy you hired (Kirby) won more with the last guys (Richt) lower rated recruits than his own higher rated recruits. What does that tell us?
Not much, actually.

Smart didn't have great success in 2016 with Richt's recruits. He had good success in 2017 and 2018 with a combination of Richt's and Smart's recruits. He had some success in 2019 with mostly his own recruits but fell short against the juggernaut of LSU. 2020 was a strange year altogether with COVID, injuries, and a QB carrousel.

I don't know if Smart will win a championship at UGA, but what's for certain is that we're in contention every year and he's still recruiting the players we need to make it happen. It's ignorant to say otherwise.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 6:26 pm to
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Smart is not a carbon copy of Richt.


But the results are the same. So a mirror image?
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 7:01 pm to
I don’t remember Richt taking us to a Natty. Weird
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11191 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 7:03 pm to
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But the results are the same. So a mirror image?


Through 5 seasons Richt had 2 SEC championships and was able to beat Nick Saban. Kirby has one and can’t beat Nick Saban. Richt’s first 5 seasons are actually better than Kirby. The Georgia fans just don’t want to admit why all their rivals have a more recent National Championship some of them multiple times. Georgia is a second rate perineal underachiever.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11191 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 7:04 pm to
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I don’t remember Richt taking us to a Natty. Weird


Which you lost. And you have one playoff appearance total. Same as Michigan State which makes sense because Georgia is the Michigan State of the south.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11191 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 7:12 pm to
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What? LSU 2003 did not play uga 2002 even once, much less twice. It’s literally impossible for such a thing to occur.


Never said they did. I don’t recall UgA’s lackluster 2002 season. I do recall LSU’s 2003 National Championship season. Georgia isn’t a National Championship program. They are the Michigan State of the South. Very little actual championship history when compared to their rivals. That’s just something you are going to have to cope with. No amount of excuses will ever change that.
This post was edited on 4/28/21 at 7:13 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40218 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 7:17 pm to
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Never said they did. I don’t recall UgA’s lackluster 2002 season.


So you even admit to being as clueless about football as I accused you of.

Since you admit to not knowing football, let’s compare the 2:

Uga 2002 and LSU 2003 both went 13-1 with a loss to Ron zook.

Only one was lucky enough to get a MNC shot. Hmmm. Luck is very important isn’t it?

Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
18501 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 7:21 pm to
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So you even admit to being as clueless about football as I accused you of.

Since you admit to not knowing football, let’s compare the 2:

Uga 2002 and LSU 2003 both went 13-1 with a loss to Ron zook.

Only one was lucky enough to get a MNC shot. Hmmm. Luck is very important isn’t it?

Losing to Ron Zook team from Florida is not a good look for UGA.
This post was edited on 4/28/21 at 7:28 pm
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