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re: Is Alabama's defense overrated?

Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:48 pm to
Posted by Kcoyote
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Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:48 pm to
No but then you tried to say that because they have longer TD plays they are better. Bama has longer running TD plays so clearly they're better too.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:49 pm to
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Speaking of stat-sheets, I pulled up WR leaders. Mike Evans >>>> Landry. LSU frickED.


Is this even a question? Mike Evans is the best wr in all of cfb.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48086 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:50 pm to
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No but then you tried to say that because they have longer TD plays they are better. Bama has longer running TD plays so clearly they're better too.


Reading comprehension isn't your strength. I posted those stats in response to a gump saying they 5-6 wr that can break huge 50-60 yard tds.
Posted by Asharad
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:51 pm to
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LSU frickED.


quote:

Is this even a question?


Nope.

Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:52 pm to
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What? That never happened. Our schedule was hard because of OOC games against the PAC 12 and rose bowl champ and the big east and orange bowl champ.





Whenever anyone talked about the rush offenses LSU fans would be like "BUT IN SEC PLAY WE HAD A HIGHER YPC THAN BAMA YOU CAN'T USE THE WHOLE SEASON!!!"

Gotta pick a side and stick with it.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48086 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:52 pm to
You're not witty. You're just making yourself look dumb. If lsu sucks bama will have ZERO quality wins this year. Not one.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:53 pm to
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FACT. In SEC play, Norwood AND Cooper are getting more yards per catch than Landry. FACT.


The combo of Cooper/Norwood > combo of OBJ/Landry.


Wrong. Those stats are skewed because of a small sample size. Amari Cooper only has 16 SEC catches because he decided to take most of the season off. Norwood has 19 SEC catches since he's nothing more than a safety valve 3rd option.

Cooper's 16 SEC catches vs Beckham's first 16 SEC catches:

Cooper 266 yards 17.56 per catch
Beckham 387 yards 24.89 per catch

Norwoods 19 SEC catches vs Landry's first 19 SEC catches:

Norwood 295 yards 15.52 per catch
Landry 299 yards 15.73 per catch.
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:53 pm to
What's the verdict thus far? Have we come to the conclusion that Alabama's defense is overrated?
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:53 pm to
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You're not witty. You're just making yourself look dumb. If lsu sucks bama will have ZERO quality wins this year. Not one.



And we won't give two shits during the title celebration in Pasadena.
Posted by Kcoyote
Member since Jan 2012
12050 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:53 pm to
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Bama's longest receiving td all year is 54 yards. Lsu's back up fullback has a 52 yards receiving td.


In response to this:
quote:

Landry and Beckham have a staggering 5 TDs against SEC defenses all year, combined.


So no. You pulled it out of nowhere. To try and make a point about....? Nothing.
Posted by tt54l32v
Member since Oct 2012
832 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:54 pm to
Bama is better than lsu on offense, defense and special teams. Better coaching and a better Qb.

You straight fricked.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48086 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:54 pm to
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Those stats are skewed because of a small sample size. Amari Cooper only has 16 SEC catches because he decided to take most of the season off. Norwood has 19 SEC catches since he's nothing more than a safety valve 3rd option.


It's skewed because bama has played the worst 3 defenses in the sec and lsu has played 3 of the top 5.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:55 pm to
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Wrong. Those stats are skewed because of a small sample size. Amari Cooper only has 16 SEC catches because he decided to take most of the season off. Norwood has 19 SEC catches since he's nothing more than a safety valve 3rd option.

Cooper's 16 SEC catches vs Beckham's first 16 SEC catches:

Cooper 266 yards 17.56 per catch
Beckham 387 yards 24.89 per catch

Norwoods 19 SEC catches vs Landry's first 19 SEC catches:

Norwood 295 yards 15.52 per catch
Landry 299 yards 15.73 per catch.



I wasn't being serious.


That said, Norwood isn't a "third option". We rotate WRs constantly. And on top of that, we don't have a priority system. Every play has different reads. Cooper could be the first option one one play, and the third or fourth on another. Same for any WR. We trust all of our WRs.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48086 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:55 pm to
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What's the verdict thus far? Have we come to the conclusion that Alabama's defense is overrated?


Defense is good but auburn's defense was more successful against A&M and it wa later in the year and any Aggie fan will tell you that they are awesome later in the year.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:56 pm to
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It's skewed because bama has played the worst 3 defenses in the sec and lsu has played 3 of the top 5.



Doesn't even matter. Given the same amount of catches, Landry and Beckham were more productive with their opportunities. Best WR combo in the league. Blee dat.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:57 pm to
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It's skewed because bama has played the worst 3 defenses in the sec and lsu has played 3 of the top 5.


We're talking about passing the ball, right?


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So, where are you getting your information?
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6319 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:57 pm to
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You're not witty. You're just making yourself look dumb


I'm applying your own argument against you. Your WR's have good stats. Your QBR is better.

Aggies also have better receivers and QBR. Bama won.

Now, if you believe that a better QBR and better WR ratings can predetermine the outcome of a game, then you might as well concede the LSU-aTm game right now.

I look forward to the LSU/Bama game, and hope it's a good matchup. All your stats are crap until then.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:57 pm to
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Best WR combo in the league. Blee dat.


Probably the best in the nation, if we're being honest.
Posted by Kcoyote
Member since Jan 2012
12050 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:58 pm to
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It's skewed because bama has played the worst 3 defenses in the sec and lsu has played 3 of the top 5.


Nope. Georgia, the team you lost to gives up the most points.
This post was edited on 11/2/13 at 10:58 pm
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:58 pm to
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Defense is good but auburn's defense was more successful against A&M and it wa later in the year and any Aggie fan will tell you that they are awesome later in the year.



And Bama's defense was more successful against other common opponents, such as Arkansas.
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