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re: Is Alabama's defense overrated?
Posted on 11/1/13 at 7:23 am to pvilleguru
Posted on 11/1/13 at 7:23 am to pvilleguru
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This is by far the best group of receivers we've ever had. It's not even debatable.
And what proves that?
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Posted on 11/1/13 at 7:27 am to Rickdaddy4188
It's not that hard to tell just by watching. Our #4 is better than our #2 in years past. I've never felt we'had more than 2 really Goo receivers, and many years we've been lucky to even have one. I know this is the best group we've had since I've been alive, and we weren't exactly known for great receivers before that.
Posted on 11/1/13 at 7:32 am to pvilleguru
Don Hutson, Ozzie Newsome, Ray Perkins
Posted on 11/1/13 at 7:35 am to nc14
Ok? That's what, 3 guys in a 50 year span?
Posted on 11/1/13 at 7:53 am to pvilleguru
That was my point
Posted on 11/1/13 at 7:58 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Lsu has two wr that will start in the nfl. Bama doesn't. Mett rarely needs to get to his third read. Mett locking in has served him well since he has a higher qb rating than AJ and a higher y/attempt.
Quit being ignorant. Bama ROTATES WRs, the first read, second read, they're rarely the same. LSU force feeds their top two.
Posted on 11/1/13 at 7:59 am to Rickdaddy4188
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What? Do you know how rare it is to have 4 Wrs get drafted from the same team?
Coop and White are probably the most likely, Coop is a sure thing to get draft.
Jones and Norwood will make rosters. Norwood especially. Great route runner, adjusts his body well, catches everything, etc.
Posted on 11/1/13 at 8:01 am to Hater Bait
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It's true that Alabama hasn't had a superstar WR since Julio. Cooper showed promise last year, but has struggled alittle this year
Coop's struggles have been because of injury, and the word is he got into it with AJ a while back. Didn't like that AJ yelled at him, if true he needs to get used to it, the QB is the leader and AJ has earned the right to do and say whatever he wants to anyone on the team.
Posted on 11/1/13 at 8:03 am to Shady Dealings
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Who gives a damn how many 1000 yard receivers we have. Bama's first 4 WR's, Jones, Cooper, White, and Norwood, will be round 1-3 NFL draft picks over next two years. That is FACT.
Turn the homer down. Cooper will. If the others are drafted, the only one I see cracking the top three rounds would be White, but even then I don't know. He's gonna be a guy who shows out at the combine and his pro day.
Posted on 11/1/13 at 8:16 am to Shady Dealings
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Who gives a damn how many 1000 yard receivers we have. Bama's first 4 WR's, Jones, Cooper, White, and Norwood, will be round 1-3 NFL draft picks over next two years. That is FACT.
Have to disagree. Being drafted in the first 3 rounds is still pretty elite. My guess is that only Cooper would be drafted in the first 3 rounds, and he will need to continue to bounce back from injury and have a good junior season to be assured of that.
I do think White, Jones, and Norwood have a good chance to be drafted in their respective years, but I would be surprised if any are in the first three rounds. Norwood comes out this year and there is no way he is a first three round guy.
Jones and White still have a chance to improve their stock. Jones has really done that this year both with his return game and receiving game.
Although their aren't 4 first three rounders on the team, I think there is a very good chance there are four WR that will be drafted over the next few years.
Posted on 11/1/13 at 8:21 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Lsu has two wr that will start in the nfl. Bama doesn't. Mett rarely needs to get to his third read. Mett locking in has served him well since he has a higher qb rating than AJ and a higher y/attempt.
Rarely, yes; but when he needs to , he doesn't. That's why Ole Miss picked him off three times. He assumed he could toss it deep and they'd get it. Alabama's Secondary > Ole Miss Secondary, so he can't assume he can do the same to us either.
Honestly, Mett has, lately, looked less and less the product of being a great QB and more having a great pair of receivers.
Posted on 11/1/13 at 8:23 am to skrayper
How does a thread about defense turn in to WR rant?
Posted on 11/1/13 at 8:24 am to skrayper
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Honestly, Mett has, lately, looked less and less the product of being a great QB and more having a great pair of receivers.
Outside of the ole miss game , Mett has played great. Until the ole miss game he was the highest rated qb in the sec.
Posted on 11/1/13 at 8:24 am to Asharad
Missed the exit. Shite happens.
Posted on 11/1/13 at 8:26 am to elposter
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Have to disagree. Being drafted in the first 3 rounds is still pretty elite. My guess is that only Cooper would be drafted in the first 3 rounds, and he will need to continue to bounce back from injury and have a good junior season to be assured of that.
Right. It's rare as shite to have 4 wr from one team to get drafted at all, let alone 1-3 round.
Posted on 11/1/13 at 8:31 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Lsu has two wr that will start in the nfl. Bama doesn't
Good deal, but that doesn't mean LSU has the vastly superior offense you claimed when laughing off the statement someone made that Bama's offense was just as good, mind you not better but as good, as LSU's. LSU might have two 1000 yard receivers, that's awesome for those two guys as individuals, but it really has no bearing on which team's entire offense is better. Continue getting all worked up on here, and let's see whose offense looks better after 11/9 and after the season has played out. You might be right and LSU's ends up better, but there is no huge difference like you claim. Where there is a huge difference is on defense, and that will be the difference in the game and the season.
Posted on 11/1/13 at 8:32 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Quit being ignorant. Bama ROTATES WRs, the first read, second read, they're rarely the same. LSU force feeds their top two.
Lsu doesn't force feed OBJr and Landry. It's just that at least one of the two will be open. If lsu was forcing the ball , Mett's compl% wouldn't be as good as it is.
It's funny that last year Bama fans were saying Cooper was the shite because he had 1000 yards , but when lsu has TWO 1000 yards receivers , it's because lsu forces the ball to only those two. Do you see how the narrative switches when you're talking about bama?
Posted on 11/1/13 at 8:34 am to pvilleguru
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It's not that hard to tell just by watching. Our #4 is better than our #2 in years past. I've never felt we'had more than 2 really Goo receivers, and many years we've been lucky to even have one. I know this is the best group we've had since I've been alive, and we weren't exactly known for great receivers before that.
I don't know. Julio Jones could put a wr corp in the top 5 range by himself.
Posted on 11/1/13 at 8:34 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Lsu doesn't force feed OBJr and Landry. It's just that at least one of the two will be open. If lsu was forcing the ball , Mett's compl% wouldn't be as good as it is.
It's funny that last year Bama fans were saying Cooper was the shite because he had 1000 yards , but when lsu has TWO 1000 yards receivers , it's because lsu forces the ball to only those two. Do you see how the narrative switches when you're talking about bama?
No one is saying that. LSU is gonna have two 1k WRs. I've constantly praised Landry and OBJ. The point we're making is you continue to spout this about Mett not looking past his second read and act like it makes Bama's WRs bad because one or two WRs aren't dominating, when you IGNORE the fact that Bama rotates WRs constantly and on any given play any WR could be the first read.
Posted on 11/1/13 at 8:35 am to Rickdaddy4188
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I don't know. Julio Jones could put a wr corp in the top 5 range by himself.
Nah. Our WRs corp then was Julio and a bunch of nobodies.
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