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re: If Christian McCaffrey doesn't win the Heisman, then we need to..

Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:24 pm to
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:24 pm to
Wrong. It's because he didn't touch 5 YPC in any contest in November while DH ran his team into a Championship and play-off spot.
Posted by skirpnasty
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:27 pm to
You know that isn't true right? He ran for 5 against A&M.


Actually both of them went for less than 5 YPC 3 times this year. The difference is Fournette missed out on a cream puff game and still got his overall YPC to 6.4.
This post was edited on 12/8/15 at 11:29 pm
Posted by cajunbama
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:27 pm to
Booger was not a difference maker at all in the games that mattered. So what if he and Henry shat all over State like most all average and above teams do? When it was do or die Henry did and boogers Heisman hopes died.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:29 pm to
4.968 ain't 5, hoss.
Posted by cajunbama
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:30 pm to
So? That was a meaningless game against a team barely better than State. Hell, by then AnM had pretty much quit on its season for the second year in a row and State was infinitely better.

Henry's intangibles are so beyond anything booger can offer in that department it's not even close to be honest.
Posted by Bmath
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:31 pm to
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You simply can't, on national TV, in the biggest SEC game of the year, as the Heisman favorite have only 31 yards, most of those because of a late turnover, and lose while the opposing RB rushes for over 200 and looks great doing it while running out the last nine plus minutes


Which is why I'm not surprised that Fournette isn't winning the Heisman.

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follow that up with consecutive games of less than Heisman numbers while getting blown out, expect to win it.


He had similar stats to Henry in the following game, and mostly because the team had to pass A LOT after getting down by several quick Arkansas scores.

Fournette then had 180 APY against Ole Miss, and racked up another 150 on the ground against TAMU. At that point I'm not really sure what else he could do.

It sounds like an excuse, but even Finebaum said it that you had to feel bad for Fournette in the Bama game. He had nowhere to run, and the coaches struggled to find ways to get the line shored up. Even when he tried to make something happen, it didn't matter because he was gang tackled repededly. He can't make chicken salad out of chicken shite. The same thing happened to Henry against Auburn in the first half, but the coaches found ways to create space later in the game. That's coaching, and yet another reason why LSU fans are frustrated right now.

Honestly, do you not get why LSU fans are disappointed that he isn't in New York right now? Henry gets a pass on his shitty performances because they were early in the season against who cares competition. Fournette has one bad game, and the media is out for blood. HIs team then collapsed around him, and he became a product of not living up to his own success. In reality, Fournette can't block for himself, make the QB throw more accurately, or catch balls for his receivers.
Posted by cajunbama
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:31 pm to
Not when it mattered most.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:32 pm to
LF had 12 more carries in 2 cream puff games than Henry had in 3.
Posted by texag7
College Station
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:35 pm to
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He had nowhere to run, and the coaches struggled to find ways to get the line shored up. Even when he tried to make something happen,


Tra Carson had more yards with 6 less carries with a far worse offensive line.

The offensive line excuse is getting a little old.
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:36 pm to
We actually weren't. We lost our best safety and best corner for the year with injuries. There is a reason Henry broke 2 or 3 40+ yard runs untouched in that game, freshmen not where they were supposed to be. Otherwise, we actually stopped Henry for the majority of the night. Was actually happy with our defense that game minus 3 plays, just completely blown assignments and they were exploited.

Granted, LF was the first real game under our new DC. So I wouldn't say either game was our defense in its prime. Probably a wash there.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:36 pm to
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4.968 ain't 5, hoss.


Yes, it is.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
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33040 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:37 pm to
Yeah I see why LSU fans are upset, but when you play the better teams late and lose to them, you need to put up Heisman numbers and booger just didn't. The two game stretch of Bama and then Arkie (Arkie wasn't bad, but it was average enough) was just to much to overcome. Henry ran for over 200 the day Arkie held booger less than 100 rushing. He just didn't do enough. Sorry about that.
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:37 pm to
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Tra Carson had more yards with 6 less carries with a far worse offensive line.

The offensive line excuse is getting a little old.


You don't think that had to do with how wide open Sumlin's pass heavy offense is? Fournette lined up in the I formation every single down. Damn you're dumb.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:37 pm to
LSU hardly through a forward pass in those games. Is he supposed to sit on the bench? Did other backs on the team not get carries?

I'm not really sure of the point you are trying to make. Oh that's right, you're just cherry picking the box score stats without actually looking how the game was played.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:42 pm to
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Yes, it is.
See LF get 4.968 on 4th and 5. See LSU offense leave the field.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:43 pm to
quote:

booger


Booger McFarland is a former defensive tackle that now works for the SEC network. To whom are you referring to?

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He just didn't do enough


Fournette didn't do enough? Let's compare what Henry did vs Auburn and Florida? Who was more efficient?

When you look at the entire season, Fournette did more with less. Even with 200+ yds called back, it still took Henry an extra game to catch his total yards. Barely.

Fournette had great games against Ole Miss and TAMU, but at that point he was irrelevant in the voters eyes. It is what it is.
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10786 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:44 pm to
Actually, that's not true. Those refs can't see 32 thousandths of an inch. That's first down all day.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:47 pm to
Uh.. that would be 32 thousandths of a yard, Einstein.
This post was edited on 12/8/15 at 11:50 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:47 pm to
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for over 200 the day Arkie held booger less than 100 rushing. He just didn't do enough. Sorry about that.


Oh, it's ok.

How did Predator fare vs Arkansas?
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
33040 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:49 pm to
Sucks no one on that front 7 could stop him on those runs and all y'all had to rely on was a safety or cornerback.
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