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re: I mean 2019 LSU vs 2020 Bama isn’t even a debate

Posted on 6/27/21 at 2:43 pm to
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 2:43 pm to
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How aren't they true?



I am not looking up the list of injuries every time we have this debate, and I smoke way too much weed to remember them.

You can claim Alabama only had 2 injuries if it makes you feel better, and I'll just giggle at the fact you need to believe that.

Unless you are talking about only the MLB position, in which case yes I guess there were only 2 injuries to the starters. Well, even more than that if we are counting opt outs and transfers.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 2:44 pm to
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LSU destroyed everyone


46-41 isn't destruction

55-17 is destruction



Posted by C Nite
The Dove Shack
Member since Dec 2020
2066 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 2:44 pm to
Ya gotta admit, Bama winning the National Championship and Heisman Trophy even feels right to you
Posted by TwoDatBait
Northshore, LA
Member since Jul 2011
6526 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 2:45 pm to
Now go count how many star opponents opted out vs bama…
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39571 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 2:45 pm to
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The stat deviations from 2019 to 2020 prove that.


You mean the ones where 2019 LSU wasn't even the #1 team in 2019?

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 2:46 pm to
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46-41 isn't destruction

55-17 is destruction



LSU fans only watch the first half of 2019, and none of the 2020 game.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26611 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 2:46 pm to
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I mean 2019 LSU vs 2020 Bama isn’t even a debate
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Bama had a great/dominant team last year, but besides LSU playing in full, hostile stadiums against many highly ranked teams and having two more Ws, in the post-season, LSU destroyed everyone.


Homefield advantage is less than 3 points.

Your 2 extra wins are NorthWestern St and Georgia Southern.

LSU beat Auburn by 3, Alabama by 5 and NR in the coaches poll Texas by 7. Your defense was terrible and destroyed nobody.

Bama could have went 15-0, but they didn't simply because the season was shortened. However, every game is wear and tear on players and another chance for significant players to get injured even against cupcakes.

That "terrible defense" held every post-season team they played below their scoring average by an average of 17 points. The #3 scoring offense, Clemson, was averaging 43 and only scored 25 against LSU in the national championship. LSU's D even still held the #2 scoring offense, Bama, 6 points below their scoring average in the regular season. I never said LSU's D was great. But they did peak at the right time in the post-season.

Bama's D held their post-season opponents to an average of 7 points below their scoring average. Florida averaged 39 ppg and scored a TD above their scoring average at 46.



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The extra games you are quoting in records are cupcake games. So basically your argument is Alabama and it's opponents needed to play a bunch of FCS and low ranked G5 teams in order to be better.

Haha...what? No, that's not what I said. I was simply stating the records. When a team beats three teams in post-season with a combined record of 38-5, then it's safe to assume that they played a lot of very good teams since they are playing in the post-season. My whole point (which I thought was pretty clear) was that when it came to the post-season and what is supposed to be the toughest games, LSU completely dominated those teams (and the numbers show that). But even if you include the rest of the games, LSU still had the most Ws ever against teams in the final top 25.
Posted by C Nite
The Dove Shack
Member since Dec 2020
2066 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 2:48 pm to
Wouldn't matter. Didn't matter. Everyone was losing to Bama last season. Your Derrick Stunkley played and got his arse lit up by Devonta all game long

frickin bum
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39571 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 2:50 pm to
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Bama could have went 15-0, but they didn't simply because the season was shortened. However, every game is wear and tear on players and another chance for significant players to get injured even against cupcakes.



I think watching LSU fans talk about how important playing Northwestern St is for this topic may be more satisfying than anything in this thread.

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That "terrible defense" held every post-season team they played below their scoring average by an average of 17 points. The #3 scoring offense, Clemson, was averaging 43 and only scored 25 against LSU in the national championship. LSU's D even still held the #2 scoring offense, Bama, 6 points below their scoring average in the regular season. I never said LSU's D was great. But they did peak at the right time in the post-season.


Season. It starts in September, not December.

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Haha...what? No, that's not what I said. I was simply stating the records.


Yeah, that's why you are dumb.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
68771 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 2:52 pm to
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I am not looking up the list of injuries every time we have this debate, and I smoke way too much weed to remember them.



How.....convenient
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26611 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 2:53 pm to

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LSU destroyed everyone


46-41 isn't destruction


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in the post-season, LSU destroyed everyone.


Some of you Bama fans are so triggered that you're not even reading the whole sentence. Clearly, LSU did not destroy everyone. Texas, Auburn and Bama come to mind. In the post-season though, like I stated, LSU destroyed everyone.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
21876 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 2:53 pm to
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Now go count how many star opponents opted out vs bama…

Use your own search abilities. It has been posted here. Bama schedule was the least affected by opt outs and CV19 sit outs in the country.

It's a tiresome, unwinnable discussion.

LSU may have had the best offensive system and players in CFB history.

Alabama may have been the most complete TEAM in CFB history.

Both were extraordinarily fun to watch regardless of circumstance.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39571 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 2:55 pm to
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How.....convenient


Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
68771 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:01 pm to
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Alabama may have been the most complete TEAM in CFB history.



I don't know how we can trash 2019 LSU's defense for giving up 21 points per game but laud 2020 Alabama's defense for giving up 19 points per game.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
30132 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:02 pm to



14 pages. I was just hoping for a few nibbles.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
12697 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:03 pm to
I am a homer and the 2020 team was a bright spot during a weird, hectic year. I really don’t give a damn what other fanbases think about the team…it was a fun, enjoyable season.
This post was edited on 6/27/21 at 3:04 pm
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41123 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:04 pm to
LSU got absolutely wrecked in this thread
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
21876 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:07 pm to
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don't know how we can trash 2019 LSU's defense for giving up 21 points per game but laud 2020 Alabama's defense for giving up 19 points per game.

The all FBS component is a portion of that.

But, I'm not "trashing" either.

I've never seen a team as unified, connected and having fun playing winning football for each other than 2020 Alabama. It was a unique culture that ran very deep. And, in all likelihood, it was borne out of an embarrassing NCG loss and injury riddled follow-on season with a few too many "super stars" who may have not had the same servant-leader mentality.
This post was edited on 6/27/21 at 9:24 pm
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26611 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:08 pm to
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Season. It starts in September, not December.

You mean like having the most wins ever in a season against teams in the final top 25 poll like I mentioned?

Most of the arguments from Bama fans are that the cupcakes don't matter (which I agree with), so I focused on the post-season when teams usually play the best teams they play all year.
Posted by CajunTiger_225
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
9233 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:24 pm to
Explain further your statement has zero substance.

In what defense?
Alabama didn't have the number 1 defense in 2020.
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