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Posted by vol017
Louisiana
Member since May 2009
4542 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 1:40 pm to
No, it's a good topic. I just thought about Brandon Jacobs once being on that roster and just wanted to through a lil' debate in there. It's all good.
Posted by SouGent
Sherman, TX
Member since Jul 2007
1973 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 1:45 pm to
and just think how great those guys would have been with a decent coach!!
Posted by FootballHog
Member since Nov 2006
7694 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

and just think how great those guys would have been with a decent coach!!


Don't remind us.

4-4 with those guys in 2008. And we were leading every game in the 4th quarter
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13416 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

He's a good running back no doubt, but he put up those stats because you didn't give the ball to anyone else in the backfield.

A 5'7", 170 lbs running back that averages over 5 YPC and 100 YPG is good, no matter how you shake it. The fact that he had all those carries and continued playing through minor injuries (until his hamstring tear) only bolsters the argument that Michael Smith is an excellent RB.

Granted, he does have one glaring weakness, which is in short yardage situations. Nevertheless, he is a very, very good running back.
Posted by RBU21
Member since Jul 2009
299 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 2:06 pm to
Ronnie Brown
Brandon Jacobs
Cadillac Williams
Kenny Irons

disagree
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68123 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

and just think how great those guys would have been with a decent coach!!



Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13416 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

Ronnie Brown
Brandon Jacobs
Cadillac Williams
Kenny Irons

disagree



Correct me if I'm wrong, but Jacobs and Irons were never on the team at the same time.

Even if they were all on the team simultaneously, they didn't come close to the production of Arkansas's four RBs.
Posted by bcshog
arkansas
Member since Jul 2009
1579 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

That's a nasty depth chart that will probably never be matched at 4 deep again, at any school.


Unless of course it's done again at Arkansas.

Michael Smith
Broderick Green
D'Anthony Curtis
Knile Davis
Ronnie Wingo Jr
Dennis Johnson

That is some high flying potential there.

I would also have to in all fairness say SoCal's current depth chart has some serious potential to, they are frickin loaded.
Posted by vol017
Louisiana
Member since May 2009
4542 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Jacobs and Irons were never on the team at the same time.


I think Jacobs was, but not Irons.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17745 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

McFadden>Caddy


Agreed

quote:

Jones>Brown


Disagree. I think Ronnie Brown was better then Felix Jones

quote:

Hillis=Jacobs


Agree

quote:

Michael Smith runs unnoposed.


Kenny Irons?
Posted by flucobaseball
VA
Member since Apr 2004
6252 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 4:42 pm to
Dominic Davis


Joseph Addai


LaBrandon Toefield


Shyrone Carey


Posted by Dan
Austin
Member since Dec 2006
2458 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 4:46 pm to



Posted by bcshog
arkansas
Member since Jul 2009
1579 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

Kenny Irons?


2435 career yards, good career.

1627 rushing yards entering into his sr season. Will he get 800 yards? I suspect he won't. So i have to give the nod to Irons on that one.

BUT

Felix Jones

2954 rushing yards
383 receiving yards
1744 return yards
_____
5081 AP yards

Ronnie Brown

2707 rushing yards
668 receiving yards
___________
3375 AP yards


Ronnie had 66.4% of Felix's production, how can you say Brown > Felix? Felix 1.5X > Brown

Posted by bamascott2
XIV
Member since Apr 2009
9671 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

Pretty good...its no Cadillac, Brown backfield...but definitely good...

Dman straight! We all know that Running Back U ain't in Arkansas! Right, Barners?
Posted by woopiginaustin
Moderator
Member since Jun 2008
8590 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 5:17 pm to
On Felix Jones:

Felix is 13 carries shy of the 400 carry minimum to be listed in the SEC Career YPC category.

Had he managed his average over those 13 carries he would be the SEC All-Time Leader by a FULL YARD, 7.6, over Bo Jackson's 6.6 YPC.

In SEC Season YPC he meets the minimum carry requirement and is at the top of the list at 8.74 YPC on 133 touches.

His almost 5,100 APY and 7.6 YPC damn near makes our 2nd best back better than "Running Back U's" #1.
This post was edited on 7/31/09 at 5:18 pm
Posted by bcshog
arkansas
Member since Jul 2009
1579 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

His almost 5,100 APY and 7.6 YPC damn near makes our 2nd best back better than "Running Back U's" #1.


I almost wish he wasn our number 1 back, if it would have meant that DMac had played safety for us. Sure DMac was fun to watch in the WildwhateverNuttcallsitthisweek, but we may have won an SEC and national title in 06 if we had A)More balance in the offense caused by not having two great RB we were trying to feed the ball and B) A super fast, super smooth head hunting FS on defense.

If only is a fun game to play.
Posted by JuniperSprouts
Member since Mar 2009
683 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 5:28 pm to
"That's a nasty depth chart that will probably never be matched at 4 deep again, at any school."


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Hahaha! USC "matched" that pretty well.

Sept 17, 2005 70-17
Sept 02, 2006 50-14

4-deep indeed!
Posted by AU66
Northport Al
Member since Sep 2006
3302 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 6:04 pm to
goin old school,how bout

james brooks
william andrews
joe cribbs
sam dejarnette
Posted by bcshog
arkansas
Member since Jul 2009
1579 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 6:07 pm to
quote:

Hahaha! USC "matched" that pretty well.

Sept 17, 2005 70-17
Sept 02, 2006 50-14

4-deep indeed!


I didn't realize that the RB could dictate things like oh defense, and once Nutt let us get behind by 3 TD even our great RB corp couldn't save us against SoCal.
Posted by Triple6Rebel
Kansas City
Member since Feb 2009
1584 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 6:18 pm to
If only Arkansas had a good QB in 06 and 07. Not tryin to bash just my thoughts.
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