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re: Hugh Freeze : Heir To Saban?
Posted on 3/15/13 at 1:09 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 3/15/13 at 1:09 pm to RollTide1987
let me rephrase rolltide teams that are still relevant. That rules out:
Army
Navy
Princeton
Harvard
Yale
Army
Navy
Princeton
Harvard
Yale
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Posted on 3/15/13 at 1:13 pm to Bamatab
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Alright Ole Miss fans, take a step back over to reality for one second here. You guys are acting like Ole Miss is some sort of destination job that he would never leave from. But you are just fooling yourselves if you think that if Freeze is successful at Ole Miss, he wouldn't jump at the chance if a school with more prestige and resources comes calling. Again, you guys need to accept the reality that is the Ole Miss football program. I might've been trolling a little (or maybe a lot), but what I've said is based in reality, and you guys know it. Know your role in the college football world.
Has Nick Saban ever said publicly that the U of A was his dream job? Did he call the head of the coaching search committee and tell them that if they would take a chance on him then he would work nonstop to turn Bama around and make it something for the school to be proud of?
Because Hugh Freeze did all of that for OM. He called Archie Manning and sold himself to the committee that was willing to spend big bucks on a coach
Do I think he is Creepy? Hell yeah. Do I have issues with some of his recruiting tactics? Sure. But Freeze will be at OM for the foreseeable future. He seems like a humble man that doesn't particularly care to live in a dead dudes shadow.
Posted on 3/15/13 at 1:16 pm to adammwilson
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No your argument was is there are more schools that coaches would rather be at. Don't change it now.
How are those two mutually exclusive? I think any coach would rather be at a school that is in a better postion to be successful at.
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Clearly they aren't in the best spot to succeed RIGHT NOW but Freeze has them on the right path.
The right path to do what? Win the SEC West (even that is a huge leap)?
Posted on 3/15/13 at 1:17 pm to MaroonNation
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Has Nick Saban ever said publicly that the U of A was his dream job? Did he call the head of the coaching search committee and tell them that if they would take a chance on him then he would work nonstop to turn Bama around and make it something for the school to be proud of?
Because Hugh Freeze did all of that for OM. He called Archie Manning and sold himself to the committee that was willing to spend big bucks on a coach
Do I think he is Creepy? Hell yeah. Do I have issues with some of his recruiting tactics? Sure. But Freeze will be at OM for the foreseeable future. He seems like a humble man that doesn't particularly care to live in a dead dudes shadow.
Well, he has no chance of ever darkening the doors of the interview room at Bama then.
Let's be serious, Freeze has his dream job and he is happy. Good for him and good for OM.
Posted on 3/15/13 at 1:20 pm to Bamatab
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I may have been exaggerating some with that statement. But my point is, that comparatively speaking, OM has a pretty small stadium (especially for a SEC school).
10-feaux.
Also, we're going to be at 70K+ very soon.
You need to bitch at Vandy about bringing down the average.
Posted on 3/15/13 at 1:22 pm to adammwilson
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Army
Navy
Princeton
Harvard
Yale
Then add:
Virginia Tech
Georgia Tech
Michigan State
Colorado
This post was edited on 3/15/13 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 3/15/13 at 1:23 pm to Bamatab
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I think any coach would rather be at a school that is in a better position to be successful at.
Because just because they win now doesn't mean they always have the tools to always win. (TCU, Boise St., etc)
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The right path to do what? Win the SEC West (even that is a huge leap)?
To even compete for it. Again, let's not forget just how horrible they were just two years ago. They could move all the way up to 2nd this year in the West.
Posted on 3/15/13 at 1:24 pm to RollTide1987
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Then add:
Virginia Tech
Georgia Tech
Michigan State
Colorado
All those schools are laughable other than maybe Michigan St.
Posted on 3/15/13 at 1:27 pm to MaroonNation
So you are telling me that if Texas cans Brown after this season, that Freeze wouldn't be on the next plane to Austin if they came calling?
And btw:
He supposedly did have his agent call Mal Moore and tell him that if the Bama job were to come open at the end of the year, that he would be interested in it.
And btw:
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Did he call the head of the coaching search committee and tell them that if they would take a chance on him then he would work nonstop to turn Bama around and make it something for the school to be proud of?
He supposedly did have his agent call Mal Moore and tell him that if the Bama job were to come open at the end of the year, that he would be interested in it.
Posted on 3/15/13 at 1:30 pm to adammwilson
quote:All because they gave aTm & LSU good games, and beat one of the worst ever Auburn & Arky teams last year?
To even compete for it. Again, let's not forget just how horrible they were just two years ago. They could move all the way up to 2nd this year in the West.
Posted on 3/15/13 at 1:33 pm to Bamatab
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So you are telling me that if Texas cans Brown after this season, that Freeze wouldn't be on the next plane to Austin if they came calling?
Yes. He's Ole Miss all the way. Some guys have their dream job already. Freeze is one.
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He supposedly did have his agent call Mal Moore and tell him that if the Bama job were to come open at the end of the year, that he would be interested in it.
Link?
Posted on 3/15/13 at 1:35 pm to RT1941
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All because they gave aTm & LSU good games, and beat one of the worst ever Auburn & Arky teams last year?
By the fact they looked 100% better than the year before. They beat Miss. St. as well. Raped Pitt in a bowl game. As you said gave a&m and LSU good games.
Not to mention they've recruited so impressively.
This post was edited on 3/15/13 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 3/15/13 at 1:39 pm to adammwilson
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Because just because they win now doesn't mean they always have the tools to always win. (TCU, Boise St., etc)
All of the schools I listed have more tools at their disposal to win with than Ole Miss.
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Yes. He's Ole Miss all the way. Some guys have their dream job already. Freeze is one.
Again -
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Link?
I said supposedly, but that is pretty common knowledge. Heck I heard that rumor after the Tenn game that year, which was long before Shula was canned.
Posted on 3/15/13 at 1:41 pm to adammwilson
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All because they gave aTm & LSU good games, and beat one of the worst ever Auburn & Arky teams last year?
quote:Gotta give Freeze credit, he had those guys fired up last season.
By the fact they looked 100% better than the year before. They beat Miss. St. as well. Raped Pitt in a bowl game. As you said gave a&m and LSU good games.
Not to mention they've recruited so impressively.
Good thing he recruited well, he's gonna need that talent to win again over improved AU & Arky teams and stay competitive against aTm/lsu/bama.
Posted on 3/15/13 at 1:48 pm to Bamatab
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All of the schools I listed have more tools at their disposal to win with than Ole Miss.
that's laughable.
what do you base your belief on that Ole Miss is not Freeze dream job?
Posted on 3/15/13 at 1:50 pm to Bamatab
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Louisville or GT, VT, UCLA
Posted on 3/15/13 at 1:51 pm to Bamatab
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that is pretty common knowledge. Heck I heard that rumor after the Tenn game that year, which was long before Shula was canned.
Hold on who was trying to get the Bama job?
Posted on 3/15/13 at 2:03 pm to adammwilson
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that's laughable.
what do you base your belief on that Ole Miss is not Freeze dream job?
I never said that OM wasn't Freeze's dream job. I said that if a team that actually had a chance at competing for national championship comes calling, that he would be on the next flight out.
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Louisville or GT, VT, UCLA
UL & GT might not have more tools than OM, but that have equal tools. But being in the ACC puts them ahead of OM since it is easier to win there (plus they are really place holders until PSU comes off their probation). And VT & UCLA definitely have more tools and advantages to win big than OM.
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Hold on who was trying to get the Bama job?
Saban
Posted on 3/15/13 at 2:07 pm to Bamatab
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I never said that OM wasn't Freeze's dream job. I said that if a team that actually had a chance at competing for national championship comes calling, that he would be on the next flight out.
and I'm telling you that's garbage.
There is no reason Ole Miss couldn't win a National Title.
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UL & GT might not have more tools than OM, but that have equal tools. But being in the ACC puts them ahead of OM since it is easier to win there (plus they are really place holders until PSU comes off their probation). And VT & UCLA definitely have more tools and advantages to win big than OM.
what kind of history do they have? What kind of tradition? The play in weak conferences too.
Posted on 3/15/13 at 2:31 pm to adammwilson
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There is no reason Ole Miss couldn't win a National Title.
Again...
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what kind of history do they have? What kind of tradition? The play in weak conferences too.
First off I'm am talking about tools & circumstances that give those teams a better chance than OM, not just history (of which playing in a weaker conference is one).
Secondly, what history and/or tradition does OM have since the SEC football teams were integrated? This isn't the 1960's.
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